If Calzaghe fought at MW Hop would never have been champ

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  • lparm
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    #221
    Originally posted by street bully
    Wild swinging brawling? You're a ****ing joke, I don't even know why I am refuting a guy who claims Jones wasn't past it, and elbowed Calzaghe. Peace.
    FFS Do I really have to post Hopkins back in 92 when he fought Milton. There wasn't much dancing in that fight chief. You're a ****ing joke and a blind one at that if he fail to see his earlier fights involved alot of brawling.

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      #222
      Originally posted by Chase8400
      I've got massive respect for Calzaghe, and consider myself a fan of sorts. No doubt he will be in the HOF. But, Joe is 4 years younger than Roy and 7 years younger than Hopkins. Roy turned pro and was a world titleholder way before Joe had his first fight. I'm not saying he would not be competitive with both at some point had they fought earlier, but it is 100% obvious that Roy would have been all over Joe at his best. As much as his fans hate hearing this, it's true. Roy isn't half the fighter he used to be. Joe only made it a point to go get the wins against the elite when his career was winding down and besides Kessler, they were all calculated risks.
      That's one reason Im arguing with his fans.

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        #223
        Originally posted by lparm
        FFS Do I really have to post Hopkins back in 92 when he fought Milton. There wasn't much dancing in that fight chief. You're a ****ing joke and a blind one at that if he fail to see his earlier fights involved alot of brawling.
        If you consider 92 Hopkins prime, then you are ******ed simple as that. That would be like saying Pacquiao was prime when he fought Sigsurat.

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          #224
          Originally posted by Chase8400
          I've got massive respect for Calzaghe, and consider myself a fan of sorts. No doubt he will be in the HOF. But, Joe is 4 years younger than Roy and 7 years younger than Hopkins. Roy turned pro and was a world titleholder way before Joe had his first fight. I'm not saying he would not be competitive with both at some point had they fought earlier, but it is 100% obvious that Roy would have been all over Joe at his best. As much as his fans hate hearing this, it's true. Roy isn't half the fighter he used to be. Joe only made it a point to go get the wins against the elite when his career was winding down and besides Kessler, they were all calculated risks.
          Calculated risks??? At lhw until he fought Tarver, RJJ did nothing but calculate the risk. At lower weights he fought some dangerous guys and won and he gets 100% credit and respect. But how can you honestly say Calzaghe didn't take risks when Roy went in there with Ricky ****ing Frazier.

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            #225
            Originally posted by Chev Chelois
            That's one reason Im arguing with his fans.
            What is the point of arguing, exactly... to change someone else's opinion? I can guarantee it won't happen. You're completely wasting your time.



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              #226
              Originally posted by street bully
              If you consider 92 Hopkins prime, then you are ******ed simple as that. That would be like saying Pacquiao was prime when he fought Sigsurat.
              Didn't I say the "younger" version???

              I don't believe I ever said prime unless I totally forgot it.

              The "younger" version of Hop would be the 92 version, no?

              You're ******ed if you can't understand a 27 year old Hop is younger than the 44 year old Hop.

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                #227
                Originally posted by lparm
                Calculated risks??? At lhw until he fought Tarver, RJJ did nothing but calculate the risk. At lower weights he fought some dangerous guys and won and he gets 100% credit and respect. But how can you honestly say Calzaghe didn't take risks when Roy went in there with Ricky ****ing Frazier.
                Tocker Pudwill.

                I rest my case.

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by Chase8400
                  Tocker Pudwill.

                  I rest my case.
                  Frazier the GOAT was a part time fighter, full time city cop who boxed as a hobby. Come on, seriously.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by Chase8400
                    Tocker Pudwill.

                    I rest my case.
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                    I rest mine.



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                      #230
                      Originally posted by lparm
                      Didn't I say the "younger" version???

                      I don't believe I ever said prime unless I totally forgot it.

                      The "younger" version of Hop would be the 92 version, no?

                      You're ******ed if you can't understand a 27 year old Hop is younger than the 44 year old Hop.
                      Says the guy who doesn't know an elbow from a forearm, and take my joke out of your sig you dellusional ****.

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