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If Calzaghe fought at MW Hop would never have been champ
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Originally posted by Chase8400 View PostI've got massive respect for Calzaghe, and consider myself a fan of sorts. No doubt he will be in the HOF. But, Joe is 4 years younger than Roy and 7 years younger than Hopkins. Roy turned pro and was a world titleholder way before Joe had his first fight. I'm not saying he would not be competitive with both at some point had they fought earlier, but it is 100% obvious that Roy would have been all over Joe at his best. As much as his fans hate hearing this, it's true. Roy isn't half the fighter he used to be. Joe only made it a point to go get the wins against the elite when his career was winding down and besides Kessler, they were all calculated risks.
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Originally posted by lparm View PostFFS Do I really have to post Hopkins back in 92 when he fought Milton. There wasn't much dancing in that fight chief. You're a ****ing joke and a blind one at that if he fail to see his earlier fights involved alot of brawling.
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Originally posted by Chase8400 View PostI've got massive respect for Calzaghe, and consider myself a fan of sorts. No doubt he will be in the HOF. But, Joe is 4 years younger than Roy and 7 years younger than Hopkins. Roy turned pro and was a world titleholder way before Joe had his first fight. I'm not saying he would not be competitive with both at some point had they fought earlier, but it is 100% obvious that Roy would have been all over Joe at his best. As much as his fans hate hearing this, it's true. Roy isn't half the fighter he used to be. Joe only made it a point to go get the wins against the elite when his career was winding down and besides Kessler, they were all calculated risks.
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Originally posted by Chev Chelois View PostThat's one reason Im arguing with his fans.
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Originally posted by street bully View PostIf you consider 92 Hopkins prime, then you are ******ed simple as that. That would be like saying Pacquiao was prime when he fought Sigsurat.
I don't believe I ever said prime unless I totally forgot it.
The "younger" version of Hop would be the 92 version, no?
You're ******ed if you can't understand a 27 year old Hop is younger than the 44 year old Hop.
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Originally posted by lparm View PostCalculated risks??? At lhw until he fought Tarver, RJJ did nothing but calculate the risk. At lower weights he fought some dangerous guys and won and he gets 100% credit and respect. But how can you honestly say Calzaghe didn't take risks when Roy went in there with Ricky ****ing Frazier.
I rest my case.
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Originally posted by Chase8400 View PostTocker Pudwill.
I rest my case.
I rest mine.
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Originally posted by lparm View PostDidn't I say the "younger" version???
I don't believe I ever said prime unless I totally forgot it.
The "younger" version of Hop would be the 92 version, no?
You're ******ed if you can't understand a 27 year old Hop is younger than the 44 year old Hop.
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