Comments Thread For: David Morrell: "No One Says My Name"

[A.B Counterhooks]

I bet the same guys that are saying morrell is being ducked would be the first ones to put his only 9 pro fights as an excuse if he gets beaten by either canelo or benavidez right now. Let the guy face at least one former champ or even a legit top contender before jumping into funny conclusions. Morrell is talented no doubt but yet untested in the pro ranks. He def needs better management as well.

[deathofaclown]

ryder ran away from the Cuban, why do you want two loser face each other? So is not about talent, is about the certainty that he's going to get outclassed no matter what.

I didn't say I want that

I'm saying plant is not exactly going to face a very high risk fight against someone pretty unknown for the same money or less money than he could fighting someone like Ryder. I just used Ryder as an example because he's in the division and a decent enough fighter.

look at the division, he's already lost to Canelo and Benavidez so who else is he gonna fight? There's hardly any big money fights really among the rest of the active 168 fightsrs, most of the other fights will bring in similar money to each other, so he's not gonna take the most difficult fights against the likes of Morrell.

[TreD]

Exactly! What have you done for the boxing fans, your career, and the sport lately? Nothing you knocked out your last opponent in 1 round, and instead of having a quick return to the ring, you've disappeared for 6 months. Whoever is managing your career is doing a piss poor job at it, plain, and simple!

Him and Keith Thurman must have the same manager.. lol..

"Talk frequently- it's just as good as fighting frequently"

I'm sorry, but this whole "8-12 week" camp nonsense, is bologna. Nobody needs 8-12 weeks to get ready for a 12 round fight. It's 48 minutes, including 12 minutes of breaks.

And, for these boxers to NEVER look different.. I mean, Charlo looked like poop. He had two camps between fight with Castano and Canelo. Granted, he had surgery. But how did the camp not improve his skills any? He looks diminished..

And EVERYONE says, "Sparring is not like the real fight". So, why are they going 200 rounds+ sparring? Boxers could make dumb money having exhibitions in between fights, simulating a professional fight, with a crowd. Instead, they have a bunch of yes-men tell them how great they are while they beat on paid sparring partners.

Boxing needs an over haul.

[TheOneAboveAll]

I understand the logic but can you tell me who Canelo has picked recently that has really had a truly significant win that separates them as a challenger for him? Especially in the weight class where Canelo is champ? It seems like the lesser threats don’t have to “earn” the shot while the real threats are asked to jump through hoops that others don’t have to.

Fair question. Let’s take a quick look at Canelo’s last ten opponents. A cursory scan of this list reveals a few salient facts, but before I list those, please take a minute to write down the name of the fighter who you consider to have the next best resume over the last four years.

• • The combined record of Canelo’s last 10 opponents was 245-14-3 when they fought Canelo.
  • The avg win % of this group was 95% when they fought Canelo.
  • 8 of 10 of these opponents were reigning (7) or former (1) world champions when they fought Canelo.
  • The two fighters who were not champions were #1 mandatory contenders when they fought Canelo (WBC-Yildirim, WBO-Ryder)
    • Yildirim was a farce of a fighter, for sure, but Canelo wasn’t about to get stripped of the title he had just won beating Callum Smith while on his way to unifying the SMW titles
    • John Ryder was the WBO mandatory, but his ranking was at least well-earned. He was coming off victories over solid contenders: Zach Parker & Daniel Jacobs, and a very close loss to reigning champ Callum Smith.

Opponent	Record	Win %
Jermell Charlo	35-1-1	95%
John Ryder	32-5-0	86%
Gennadiy Golovkin	42-1-1	95%
Dmitrii Bivol	19-0-0	100%
Caleb Plant	21-0-0	100%
Billy Joe Saunders	30-0-0	100%
Avni Yildirim	21-2-0	91%
Callum Smith	27-0-0	100%
Sergey Kovalev	34-3-1	92%

Having noted these facts, your argument that lesser fighters were given unearned opportunities while other more worthy fighters were forced to "jump through hoops" is a bit silly. The only fighters who it can even be remotely argued that Canelo has ducked in these last few years is David Benavidez and the 3rd GGG fight. I don't give too much credence to to these criticisms though because Canelo was seeking greater glory unifying with the reigining SMW champions and then daring to be great by moving up and taking on a real monster like Dmitri Bivol. The GGG trilogy fight was the biggest purse of all and critical to Canelo's legacy so why would he have passed that up to face a David Benavidez whose biggest win up to that point was Anthony Dirrell?

Canelo detractors are now jumping up and down insisting that Canelo was cherry-picking and bottom feeding when he decided to take on Jermell Charlo (originally Jermall), but what a cherry pick - a reigning UNDISPUTED world champion. The bottom line is that Canelo didn't really didn't hand pick either Charlo. He made a deal with PBC and that's who they wanted him to fight. Spence might have also been on the PBC list if he would have beaten Crawford or at least looked solid, but Canelo still has two more fights with PBC and it is an absolute certainty that he will fight the winner of Benavidez-Andrade before he's finished with that contract. As far as David Benavidez having to 'jump hurdles' why they hell doesn't he have to take chances too?? If he beats Andrade then he has an undeniablle claim to be the next challenger to Canelo but up until now he's really only got one elite win and that's Caleb Plant, who Canelo already KO'd.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Fair question. Let’s take a quick look at Canelo’s last ten opponents. A cursory scan of this list reveals a few salient facts, but before I list those, please take a minute to write down the name of the fighter who you consider to have the next best resume over the last four years.

• • The combined record of Canelo’s last 10 opponents was 245-14-3 when they fought Canelo.
  • The avg win % of this group was 95% when they fought Canelo.
  • 8 of 10 of these opponents were reigning (7) or former (1) world champions when they fought Canelo.
  • The two fighters who were not champions were #1 mandatory contenders when they fought Canelo (WBC-Yildirim, WBO-Ryder)
    • Yildirim was a farce of a fighter, for sure, but Canelo wasn’t about to get stripped of the title he had just won beating Callum Smith while on his way to unifying the SMW titles
    • John Ryder was the WBO mandatory, but his ranking was at least well-earned. He was coming off victories over solid contenders: Zach Parker & Daniel Jacobs, and a very close loss to reigning champ Callum Smith.

Opponent	Record	Win %
Jermell Charlo	35-1-1	95%
John Ryder	32-5-0	86%
Gennadiy Golovkin	42-1-1	95%
Dmitrii Bivol	19-0-0	100%
Caleb Plant	21-0-0	100%
Billy Joe Saunders	30-0-0	100%
Avni Yildirim	21-2-0	91%
Callum Smith	27-0-0	100%
Sergey Kovalev	34-3-1	92%

Having noted these facts, your argument that lesser fighters were given unearned opportunities while other more worthy fighters were forced to "jump through hoops" is a bit silly, but not entirely ridiculous. The only fighters who it can even be remotely argued that Canelo has ducked in these last few years is David Benavidez and the 3rd GGG fight. I don't give too much credence to to these criticisms though because Canelo was seeking greater glory unifying with the reigining SMW champions and then daring to be great by moving up and taking on a real monster like Dmitri Bivol. The GGG trilogy fight was the biggest purse of all and critical to Canelo's legacy so why would he have passed that up to face a David Benavidez whose biggest win up to that point was Anthony Dirrell?

Canelo detractors are now jumping up and down insisting that Canelo was cherry-picking and bottom feeding when he decided to take on Jermell Charlo (originally Jermall), but what a cherry pick - a reigning UNDISPUTED world champion. The bottom line is that Canelo didn't pick either Charlo. He made a deal with PBC and that's who they wanted him to fight. Spence might have also been on the PBC list if he would have beaten Crawford or at least looked solid, but Canelo still has two more fights with PBC and it is an absolute certainty that he will fight the winner of Benavidez-Andrade before he's finished with that contract. As far as David Benavidez having to 'jump hurdles' why they hell doesn't he have to take chances too?? If he beats Andrade then he has an undeniablle claim to be the next challenger to Canelo but up until now he's really only got one elite win and that's Caleb Plant, who already Canelo KO'd.

I'm just waiting for Benavidez to crush Andrade, have a fight with Canelo signed, and then get caught doing coke, or miss weight for the fight or something similarly unprofessional. Yildirim could have been Benavidez if he could have kept his belt...

[TheOneAboveAll]

I'm just waiting for Benavidez to crush Andrade, have a fight with Canelo signed, and then get caught doing coke, or miss weight for the fight or something similarly unprofessional. Yildirim could have been Benavidez if he could have kept his belt...

Exactly. Had Benavidez had the discipline to hold onto his SMW belt, Canelo would have already taken it from him.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Exactly. Had Benavidez had the discipline to hold onto his SMW belt, Canelo would have already taken it from him.

On another point, since we're looking at data, the other best resumes would probably be Inoue and Bud.

Inoue has fought 12 world champions to date across 5 divisions, with a combined record of 348-30-6 at the time he fought them, 56 title defenses between them. He's fought a champion ranked in the top 2 in his divisional debut 3 times. 80% of his fights have been title fights, and he's got 90% stoppages in his title fights.

Bud has fought 10 world champions, with 31 defenses between them, and a combined record of 287-17-4 at the time of fight. 42.5% of his fights are title fights, with 82.4% stoppages across those fights. 25% of his career has been against world champions.

They're both undefeated, but Canelo has had a great career too, and that run to undisputed at 168 was special.

[Jab jab boom]

Yeah, just like that. They need to be able to add to his legacy and at this moment I know for damn sure morel don’t add a damn thing and benavidez is deserving specially after he beats Andrade. However, money wise, legacy wise, there are others out there that can fit that bill better than both morel and benavidez. Benavidez and or anyone else that wants that payday and a chance at canelo need to understand that, at this moment if you don’t add to the legacy or the bank, you’re not gonna get the call plain and simple

so Yidilgrim, Ryder, 40 yr old ggg and an inactive mw added to his resume? Delusional. It’s not about resume, it’s about risk management.

[Jab jab boom]

Fair question. Let’s take a quick look at Canelo’s last ten opponents. A cursory scan of this list reveals a few salient facts, but before I list those, please take a minute to write down the name of the fighter who you consider to have the next best resume over the last four years.

• • The combined record of Canelo’s last 10 opponents was 245-14-3 when they fought Canelo.
  • The avg win % of this group was 95% when they fought Canelo.
  • 8 of 10 of these opponents were reigning (7) or former (1) world champions when they fought Canelo.
  • The two fighters who were not champions were #1 mandatory contenders when they fought Canelo (WBC-Yildirim, WBO-Ryder)
    • Yildirim was a farce of a fighter, for sure, but Canelo wasn’t about to get stripped of the title he had just won beating Callum Smith while on his way to unifying the SMW titles
    • John Ryder was the WBO mandatory, but his ranking was at least well-earned. He was coming off victories over solid contenders: Zach Parker & Daniel Jacobs, and a very close loss to reigning champ Callum Smith.

Opponent	Record	Win %
Jermell Charlo	35-1-1	95%
John Ryder	32-5-0	86%
Gennadiy Golovkin	42-1-1	95%
Dmitrii Bivol	19-0-0	100%
Caleb Plant	21-0-0	100%
Billy Joe Saunders	30-0-0	100%
Avni Yildirim	21-2-0	91%
Callum Smith	27-0-0	100%
Sergey Kovalev	34-3-1	92%

Having noted these facts, your argument that lesser fighters were given unearned opportunities while other more worthy fighters were forced to "jump through hoops" is a bit silly. The only fighters who it can even be remotely argued that Canelo has ducked in these last few years is David Benavidez and the 3rd GGG fight. I don't give too much credence to to these criticisms though because Canelo was seeking greater glory unifying with the reigining SMW champions and then daring to be great by moving up and taking on a real monster like Dmitri Bivol. The GGG trilogy fight was the biggest purse of all and critical to Canelo's legacy so why would he have passed that up to face a David Benavidez whose biggest win up to that point was Anthony Dirrell?

Canelo detractors are now jumping up and down insisting that Canelo was cherry-picking and bottom feeding when he decided to take on Jermell Charlo (originally Jermall), but what a cherry pick - a reigning UNDISPUTED world champion. The bottom line is that Canelo didn't really didn't hand pick either Charlo. He made a deal with PBC and that's who they wanted him to fight. Spence might have also been on the PBC list if he would have beaten Crawford or at least looked solid, but Canelo still has two more fights with PBC and it is an absolute certainty that he will fight the winner of Benavidez-Andrade before he's finished with that contract. As far as David Benavidez having to 'jump hurdles' why they hell doesn't he have to take chances too?? If he beats Andrade then he has an undeniablle claim to be the next challenger to Canelo but up until now he's really only got one elite win and that's Caleb Plant, who Canelo already KO'd.

yeah that’s a nice thesis but I still don’t see any wins that separate them. It’s all good on paper but let’s be real, smiths best win was 36 yr old Froch left over groves. Yidilgrim beat no one, Saunders best win was either Andy Lee or Lemieux, plants best win was Uzcategui, ggg was 40 yrs old and best win was years earlier vs Jacobs, riders best win was a Jacobs who deserved to lose to gabe rosado, charlo was a jmw who never fought at 160 or 168. None of that separates them from Benavidez and any knowledgeable boxing fan knows morrell is more of a threat than any of the guys he’s faced at 168.

[garfios]

Yes, absolutely. All these SMW contenders were doing while Canelo was cleaning out the division was standing by on the sidelines begging for a 'paidai' while claiming to be ducked. It's well past time some of them got in the ring with each other. The winner of Benavidez-Andrade will absolutely be the next to challenge Canelo.

What division did he cleaned out? Fat A$$ Saunders, weight bully smith, plant? Maybe ryder. He waited until benavidez lost his belt for the second time to announce he was unifying and not fighting Mexicans, what kind of bs is that.