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  • Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

    Brook? Who got ruined and got a broken eye socked by GGG? Was never tge same after that fight and never beat anyone meaningful either.
    Porter, career journeyman that lost every big fight he was in?
    Ugas, another career journeyman?

    those are supposed to be better opponents than what Canelo faced according to you? Weren't y'all debating what was fact vs opinion?
    Exactly... A least we're agreeing on something
    Last edited by garfios; 10-21-2023, 07:14 PM.

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    • Originally posted by garfios View Post

      The problem is not the he doesn't want to fight, is who is going to sign the contract and fight.
      Why would they? Even tho hes got a reggie belt & is top ten in the division his resume reads like a high level prospect than a legit contender top guys should be fighting. He needs some higher level W's. Dirrell would even be his best opp by a mile rn.

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      • Originally posted by garfios View Post

        And yet he's rated 4 stars with only 9 fights. I wonder how many stars did benavidez had in his resume on his first 9 fights. I don't think I can see it on my phone.
        Who cares where David B was at 9 fights. David B is only 1mo older & is miles ahead of him as a pro resume-wise.

        I'm a fan of both guys but jumping David M from Shobox losers to Canelo or David B is a huge jump in class. Maybe he wins, maybe he loses, but mostly they aren't best setting him up for success to put him in that kind of situation without some higher level guys. You don't even maximize his financial upside by making him a bigger name first before throwing him into the fire after beating name guy sparring partners.

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        • Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

          Stop talking about 'real' Mexicans, fake Mexicans or Mexicans in general you pedo troon. You don't know any, aren't around and and will never be one.

          You're a fake mutt, whatever your race is, you're as fake as the "fake" Mexicans you keep calling out. You said you're neither white nor black, so being from New York your family is no doubt from some sh.it hole third world country, especially with you crying about *****'s kids in cages at the south border that I don't give a f.uck about, but you do. So continue to seeth at Canelo's success while your failed bum ass never made anything for yourself.
          Stop talking about it? The fook are you gonna do to stop me with your punk ass? Shut your phaggot fake Mexican ass up. You non fighting pu$$y keyboard warrior gringo. I offered to pull up to Houston Texas and you chumped out. Real Mexicans would be ashamed of you and would spit in your face. As far as success, I’m sure I make more in a day than you do in a year with your job of selling peeled oranges and spring water under the highway with your mother.
          Last edited by Jab jab boom; 10-21-2023, 09:00 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

            Why would they? Even tho hes got a reggie belt & is top ten in the division his resume reads like a high level prospect than a legit contender top guys should be fighting. He needs some higher level W's. Dirrell would even be his best opp by a mile rn.
            I disagree with direll, and he is having hard time finding opponents. I'd would like to see him fight someone like mbilli or pacheco, I don't think that's going to happen soon. You know who could be a good test, plant, then again their looking up because he's already a mandatory and an interim belt holder. Whatever will be will be.

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            • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

              Who cares where David B was at 9 fights. David B is only 1mo older & is miles ahead of him as a pro resume-wise.

              I'm a fan of both guys but jumping David M from Shobox losers to Canelo or David B is a huge jump in class. Maybe he wins, maybe he loses, but mostly they aren't best setting him up for success to put him in that kind of situation without some higher level guys. You don't even maximize his financial upside by making him a bigger name first before throwing him into the fire after beating name guy sparring partners.
              For comparison, you're wrong with the age, you're not wrong with your assessment too. Just for the record, benavidez was born 12/17/1996, Morell jr 01/18/1998, I'm not a mathematician but that is more than one month. The other thing is that the Cuban had to defect in order to fight professionally, he was about 18 months idle. The American had a head start in the professional ranks. So get your facts straight. You like numbers, here is one for you. Morell jr in 9 fights has face opponents with 160-19 record, benavidez in his first 11 fights, 35-55, get this, in his next 9 fights the opponents were 167-27. So who cares how many stars he has.
              ps. I do I agreed that they should maximize his earnings, and potentially he could earn more with a little bit of management and seasoning.
              Last edited by garfios; 10-21-2023, 09:50 PM.

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              • Originally posted by garfios View Post

                I disagree with direll, and he is having hard time finding opponents. I'd would like to see him fight someone like mbilli or pacheco, I don't think that's going to happen soon. You know who could be a good test, plant, then again their looking up because he's already a mandatory and an interim belt holder. Whatever will be will be.
                Dirrell would ABSOLUTELY be his best opp. The guy who lost on Shobox & a name guy sparring partner aren't more well known or more proven than Dirrell. For David M rn fighting these types of guys you can measure yourself against the guys you wanna fight is a good look also. If David M KO's Dirrell in 2rds thats a good look for him with how Dirrell has done vs David B & Plant.

                I've mentioned Mbilli a few times myself. I agree with you there. They are both in weird spots where they are top ten guys, but got high level prospect resumes so them fighting makes a lot of sense for both.

                Diego seems a lil further down in his development still to me & I doubt his ppl would wanna throw him into a fight like David M this early & I'd agree with that take.

                Ryder would even be a good opp rn imo.

                Plant would be a good option from David M's POV, but that fight doesn't make any sense for Plant is the problem there. I think if Plant loses another fight than maybe David M might make sense tho.

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                • Originally posted by garfios View Post
                  For comparison, you're wrong with the age, you're not wrong with your assessment too. Just for the record, benavidez was born 12/17/1996, Morell jr 01/18/1998, I'm not a mathematician but that is more than one month. The other thing is that the Cuban had to defect in order to fight professionally, he was about 18 months idle. The American had a head start in the professional ranks. So get your facts straight. You like numbers, here is one for you. Morell jr in 9 fights has face opponents with 160-19 record, benavidez in his first 11 fights, 35-55, get this, in his next 9 fights the opponents were 167-27. So who cares how many stars he has.
                  ps. I do I agreed that they should maximize his earnings, and potentially he could earn more with a little bit of management and seasoning.
                  Ok 13mos my bad. Still the point remains. David M is more than 13mos behind where David B is. David B was a legit belt holder at a younger age than David M is now. Granted he fooked it up, but he still had a legit belt. David B does not have a legit belt. David M's resume today couldn't carry David B's resume from 13mos ago jockstrap.

                  And no one gaf about opp records for David B when he was a teenager vs David M's when he was in his early & mid 20's. No idea why you are bringing that up.

                  For sure they need to enhance David M's status tho. He needs to fight more exp'd guys. More known guys. More proven guys. His resume is great for 9 fights, no one is arguing against that, but its not great for a guy who is trying to be #1 in his division.

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                  • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

                    Ok 13mos my bad. Still the point remains. David M is more than 13mos behind where David B is. David B was a legit belt holder at a younger age than David M is now. Granted he fooked it up, but he still had a legit belt. David B does not have a legit belt. David M's resume today couldn't carry David B's resume from 13mos ago jockstrap.

                    And no one gaf about opp records for David B when he was a teenager vs David M's when he was in his early & mid 20's. No idea why you are bringing that up.

                    For sure they need to enhance David M's status tho. He needs to fight more exp'd guys. More known guys. More proven guys. His resume is great for 9 fights, no one is arguing against that, but its not great for a guy who is trying to be #1 in his division.
                    Thank you for your point of view, just to clarify I'm comparing both records to see is the opposition was similar, and of course is not the same, dB was a teenager when he started his pro career and he started fighting almost the same opposition that Morell jr has when he was 19yo, DM made his bones in the amateurs, and that's why Morrell Jr is on a faster track than benavidez. To tell you the truth I hope they are right and he is ready, but I have seen a lot of prospects thrown into the fire and get burned. In any case, like I said before it is what it is, if they think he is ready, nobody is stopping the wagon and we will find out if he is or ain't. You mentioned direll, do you think he could be a measuring stick? I think 4 or 5 years ago yes, but now? Be safe

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                    • Originally posted by garfios View Post
                      Thank you for your point of view, just to clarify I'm comparing both records to see is the opposition was similar, and of course is not the same, dB was a teenager when he started his pro career and he started fighting almost the same opposition that Morell jr has when he was 19yo, DM made his bones in the amateurs, and that's why Morrell Jr is on a faster track than benavidez. To tell you the truth I hope they are right and he is ready, but I have seen a lot of prospects thrown into the fire and get burned. In any case, like I said before it is what it is, if they think he is ready, nobody is stopping the wagon and we will find out if he is or ain't. You mentioned direll, do you think he could be a measuring stick? I think 4 or 5 years ago yes, but now? Be safe
                      I assure you fighting guys known as sparring partners by hardcore fans is doing less for him than fighting guys casuals have seen mentioned before vs names they know. Anyone whos fought Canelo, David B or Plant in the last few yrs is a better opp option & measuring stick than a guy who lost on a Shobox card.

                      And hes unlikely to get a fight vs any one of those 3 til hes enhanced his profile with higher level guys than hes fought like those measuring stick guys or better yet other top prospects like Mbilli or bottom top ten guys.

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