Casual Fans overlooking Fury's mastery of his Era?

[dan-b]

Usyk own team said they pulled out. AJs team clearly never wanted fury either since his usyk loss. They still don't want wilder but eddies fed you all lies it was done or that they want wilder next. They do not. I told you all he wouldn't even fight wilder. All year whilst everyone else believed the december hype. Fury zhang was going to happen till joyce triggered rematch. Fury ngannou is a joke buts its one of those big money fights thst attracts a big casual audience.

i think fury usyk happens next and i said all along it will before wilder aj does. Fury usyk were both preferring the saudi money and saudi will be ready to make it happen 2024 first half. they were not wanting it beginning of this year there were no offers at any point.

let's see what happens in 2024. Cause some of these running out of tines wilder is 38 soon.zhang is 40. Aj aint fighting wilder next. So lets see what happens in the next year or next fights

Fury - Usyk is the only heavyweight fight that matters. I have no idea why you started talking about AJ.

[JakeTheBoxer]

He beat 3 guys in 10 years, oh, what a master, I am speechless.

I am sure the history will recognize him something like Lennox, Ali, Holmes, you know, the guys that actually fought all contenders.

[nghtmr111]

I personally think Fury is overrated. He was on PEDs for his best win against Klitschko, who only threw 231 punches the whole fight. Against Povetkin he threw over 400. 545 in his previous fight v Jennings. In addition to being on nandrolone, Fury also complained about the gloves, the ring canvas, and the hand wraps. Klitschko then got knocked out and retired by Joshua.

He got dropped by a former cruiserweight in Cunningham.

People on here seem to think that Wilder is trash, so if you're one of those people, you shouldn't rate his wins over Wilder at all. If Wilder is a bum, then you can't give Fury credit for beating him. And if you do rate Wilder and want to give Fury credit for beating him, you should give Wilder credit for dropping Fury 4 times. Can't have it both ways. And Fury had to be forced by the courts into the contractual rematch, rather than just honoring it, which ended up costing us a chance for Joshua v Fury.

Dillian Whyte had already lost to AJ and Povetkin before fighting Fury.

And then he killed negotiations again for undisputed by pissing about the purse for the loser in the rematch, and says he has no interest in fighting the best. He's only ever fought the "best" as champion when forced to. There's asterisks and controversy over every one of his best wins, except maybe for Wilder 3.

The guy is excellent at keeping himself in the public eye with his antics, but he's on top on the strength of beating Wilder twice, which only happened because he barely managed to get up after being flattened in the first fight, and a drug enhanced win over a faded Klitschko. Both Klitschko and Whyte had one of the worst performances of their careers against him, and he got dropped by Cunningham and by Wilder, who's supposed to be trash.

I would like to see him fight at least Usyk and AJ, and maybe any of Ruiz/Zhang/Ortiz/Anderson/Sánchez to provide a proper measuring stick, and to do so without any "wild boar."

Yeah I'm sure the pro Fury fans are going to ignore every single point you made

I've always said that... Wilder was Fury's best win and Fury and his fans trash wilder calling him a bum and talking about how ****ty he is.

Well.... I guess Klitchko is Fury's best win. That of course is disregarding his positive drug test

[kafkod]

On the contrary, it's casual fans who are falling for the false narrative that Fury proved himself to be the best in his era by beating Wilder.

More knowledgable fans who have followed the sport for years understand that styles really do make fights, and that to prove yourself the best, you have to beat the rest. All of them, not just one one of them 3 times.

[STREET CLEANER]

Wasted talent. Had three big fights agains Wilder but decided to fight Whyte and Chisora.

[hugh grant]

If fury beats jon jones, usyk, josh, Zhang I will lick his shoes clean.

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Fury is trolling all you fools like usual.

He's gonna get the bag against Francis (do tell me, what boxer would turn down 50 million to fight a non-boxer? Hint, none of them would) and then he's going to fight Usyk early next year, and then probably end his career with AJ.

Fury will be a massive favourite to beat both of them, and when he does, he goes down as the greatest HW of this era and one the greatest HWs of all time.

H2H he's already one of the GOATS, you'll never persuade me that a midget like Marciano could beat 6ft9 280lb Fury

People crying about the big fights not getting made, jesus, it's always been like this.

Tyson and Lewis never happened until it was far too late, same with Tyson vs Holyfield, Bowe vs Lewis never happened etc.

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He was on PEDs for his best win against Klitschko

Lies..

[joseph5620]

He's fighting an MMA fighter rather than the number two in the division. It's the job of apologists to justify that.

This. No other champion in boxing would get a pass for that.

[joseph5620]

I personally think Fury is overrated. He was on PEDs for his best win against Klitschko, who only threw 231 punches the whole fight. Against Povetkin he threw over 400. 545 in his previous fight v Jennings. In addition to being on nandrolone, Fury also complained about the gloves, the ring canvas, and the hand wraps. Klitschko then got knocked out and retired by Joshua.

He got dropped by a former cruiserweight in Cunningham.

People on here seem to think that Wilder is trash, so if you're one of those people, you shouldn't rate his wins over Wilder at all. If Wilder is a bum, then you can't give Fury credit for beating him. And if you do rate Wilder and want to give Fury credit for beating him, you should give Wilder credit for dropping Fury 4 times. Can't have it both ways. And Fury had to be forced by the courts into the contractual rematch, rather than just honoring it, which ended up costing us a chance for Joshua v Fury.

Dillian Whyte had already lost to AJ and Povetkin before fighting Fury.

And then he killed negotiations again for undisputed by pissing about the purse for the loser in the rematch, and says he has no interest in fighting the best. He's only ever fought the "best" as champion when forced to. There's asterisks and controversy over every one of his best wins, except maybe for Wilder 3.

The guy is excellent at keeping himself in the public eye with his antics, but he's on top on the strength of beating Wilder twice, which only happened because he barely managed to get up after being flattened in the first fight, and a drug enhanced win over a faded Klitschko. Both Klitschko and Whyte had one of the worst performances of their careers against him, and he got dropped by Cunningham and by Wilder, who's supposed to be trash.

I would like to see him fight at least Usyk and AJ, and maybe any of Ruiz/Zhang/Ortiz/Anderson/Sánchez to provide a proper measuring stick, and to do so without any "wild boar."

100 percent. There is a lot of that here. Trying to have it both ways.