Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Unifying Division Doesn't Mean **** To Me, I'm Looking For Biggest Payday

[billeau2]

I know. And I try not to put a lot of stock in what he says because it's pretty clear that he loves to play the media, and being the media, they always show up in packs to print his nonsense. He's no different than Eddie Hearn, Bob Arum, Dana White or any other promoter that way.

Unfortunately, found nowhere among the WBC rankings is Oleksandr Usyk or Zhilei Zhang. That's the problem with so many sanctioning bodies. But there are some good picks.

WBC RATINGS. SEPTEMBER 2023

1. Deontay Wilder. (Defeated x 2)
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Arslanbek Makhmudov
4. Frank Sanchez
5. Andy Ruiz
6. Jared Anderson
7. Efe Ajagba
8. Dillian Whyte. (Defeated)
9. Martin Bakole
10.Joseph Parker
11.Filip Hrgovic
12.Daniel Dubois
13.Agit Kabayel
14.Otto Wallin. (Defeated)
15.Bakhodir Jalolov


Don't look for things like consistency, logic and fairness always from the various Sanctioning bodies, what they used to call, "Alphabet banditos".

But they've had some good hits too.

Fury last fought at the end of 2022 when he completed his trilogy against Derek Chisora, with his last mandatory defence coming against Dillian Whyte in April 2022.


WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman has explained:

“Tyson Fury is the WBC heavyweight champion. He has been willing, able, and trying to fight Oleksandr Usyk, Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz Jr. He has no mandatory contenders, so he is going to do this special event in Saudi Arabia. The ‘Baddest Man on the Planet’ featuring the WBC heavyweight champion and the former UFC champion".

"He is not fighting Oleksandr Usyk because he was not ready last December. Then they couldn’t do it in March and then they went their separate ways. Anthony Joshua – the same thing, so don’t blame Tyson Fury. He has been there and been there ready,”

"The mandatory contender is a rule to provide opportunities to the best contender in the division, not to be talked by the champion. If you force the mandatory just for the sake of it, you are doing a disservice to the sport. We will not be rushing up a mandatory contender. We had ordered Wilder vs Ruiz and the winner would have been a sensational mandatory contender and that fight did not take place.
They are not participating in it so there is no mandatory contender".

"Fury is the best heavyweight without a doubt. We would like to see Fury vs Usyk so we will not interfere in the plans to have a major showdown for all the belts so there is no hurry to find a mandatory contender and we will see what happens at the WBC convention".

That Arslanbek Makhmudov!!! What a terror!!! No wonder everyone is running for the hills!!! (said in Maxwell Smart voice "Ummm Willow the Wisp? (Whispering in same voice) 'who is Arslanbek Makhmudov?"

[Willow The Wisp]

That Arslanbek Makhmudov!!! What a terror!!! No wonder everyone is running for the hills!!! (said in Maxwell Smart voice "Ummm Willow the Wisp? (Whispering in same voice) 'who is Arslanbek Makhmudov?"

Arslanbek Makhmudov is all than n' a bag a chips.
that head swivel tick is extra scary.

Tangentially......Do you rememder the Heavyweight contender who used to be a repeating guest star on "Get Smart"?

[Eff Pandas]

Arslanbek Makhmudov is all than n' a bag a chips.
that head swivel tick is extra scary.

Tangentially......Do you rememder the Heavyweight contender who used to be a repeating guest star on "Get Smart"?

LOL that is the weirdest thing I've seen a fighter do in the ring over & over & over. Dude gots tourettes or something I bet.

[strykr619]

Can you blame him thou, it USE TO BE that the biggest purses came from unified title fights, this is no longer the case. The most financially lucrative fights in the last 20 years were NOT unified belt matchups.

Name recognition is the new cash cow not the titles. Sport politik effectively ruined the value of belts.

Also miss me with that machismo "be man blah blah blah" when your risking dementia pugulista when your career is over you want to earn that paper.

[juggernaut666]

Well, I know a little something I guess.
I was a contributing writer to "Fighting Sports Newsletter" during 1995 - 97, a homespun monthly publication out of Duluth, GA which served as the very first English language publication for Mixed Martial Arts, and the first MMA magazine published and distributed in the U.S. We had a staple in the top left corner, all in black & white. Ground zero for publicizing the new sport.

Humble though it was, it opened the door for Sherdog, MMAJunkie, MMA Weekly, Cageside Press, FightMag, as well as paper mags like Extreme Fighter, Fighters Only, Grappling, Gracie Mag, Elite Fighters, UFC magazine, Real Fighter, Gladiator, Submission Fighter, etc.

Ngannou holds impressive wins over Cain Velasquez, Junior Dos Santos, Jairzinho Rozenstruik, Andrei Arlovski, Stipe Miocic, Alistair Overeem, Curtis Blaydes, Anthony Hamilton, and beat Ciryl Gane unanimously and without much controversy.
You could argue that Gane wasn't his most impressive showing if you like, but Ngannou was already "moved on" to bigger and better things than being UFC champion by that time.

Know your conversation counterpart, Son.



Heavyweights in MMA Rules 1993 - 2023:

1. Fedor Emelianenko 40-7-0. RUS. 6-1. 2
2. Francis Ngannou. 17-3-0. CAM.
3. Stipe Miocic. 20-4-0. US
4. Antonio Robrigo Nogueira. 34-10-1. BRZ
5. Cain Velasquez. 14-3-0. US
6. Fabricio Werdum. 24-9-1. BRZ
7. Jon Jones. 27-1-0. US
8. Junior Dos Santos. 21-10-0. BRZ
9. Randy Couture. 19-11-0. US
10. Josh Barnett. 35-8-0. US
11. Tim Sylvia. 31-10-0. US
12. Vitor Belfort. 26-14-1 BRZ
13. Alistair Overeem. 47-19-0. NET
14. Royce Gracie. 15-2-3. BRZ
15. Ken Shamrock. 28-17-2. US
16. Mirko Filipovic. 38-11-2. CRO
17. Dan Severn. 101-19-7. US
18. Bas Rutten 28-4-1. NET
19. Daniel Cormier 22-3-0. US
20. Frank Mir. 19-13-0. US
21. Andrei Arlovski. 34-22-0. RUS
22. Mark Coleman. 16-10-0. US
23. Igor Vovchanchyn. 55-10-1. UKR
24. Brock Lesnar 5-3-0. US
25. Curtis Blaydes. 17-4-0. US
26. Ryan Bader. 31-7-0. US
27. Travis Browne. 18-7-1. US
28. Semmy Schilt. 26-14-1. NET
29. Ciryl Gane. 12-2-0. FRA
30. Don Frye. 21-9-1. US
31. Dan Henderson. 32-15-0. US
32. Cheick Congo. 31-12-3. FRA
33. Ben Rothwell. 37-14-0. US
34. Kazushi Sakuaba. 26-17-3. JAP
35. Marco Ruas. 9-4-2. BRZ
36. Wanderlei Silva. 35-14-2. BRZ
37. Derrick Lewis. 27-11-0. US
38. Mark Hunt. 13-14-1. NZ
39. Masakatsu Funaki. 40-13-2. JAP
40. Travis Wuiff. 78-22-1. US
41. Alexander Emelianenko. 28-9-1. RUS
42. Alexander Volkov. 36-10-0. RUS
43. Pedro Rizzo. 20-11-0. BRZ
44. Mark Kerr. 15-11-0. US
45. Maurice Smith. 14-14-0. US
46. Kazuyuki Fujita. 18-14-0. JAP
47. Antonio Silva. 19-15-1. BRZ
48. Kevin Randleman. 17-16. US
49. Ricco Rodriguez. 54-27-1. US
50. Jeff Monson. 61-27-2. US
Shane Carwin. 12-2-0. US
Oleg Taktarov. 17-5-2. RUS
Hidehiko Yoshida. 9-8-1. JAP
Roy Nelson. 23-19-0. US
Sergei Kharitonov. 34-9-2. RUS
Matt Mitrione. 13-9-1. US
Gabriel Gonzaga. 17-12-0. BRZ
Jairzinho Rozenstruik. 13-5-0. SUR


The UFC Heavyweight title history:

Royce Gracie. 1993
Steve Jennum. 1994
Royce Gracie. 1994
Dan Severn. 1995
Ken Shamrock. 1995
Oleg Taktarov. 1995
Marco Ruas. 1995
Don Frye. 1996
Mark Coleman. 1996
Vitor Belfort. 1997
Maurice Smith. 1997
Randy Couture. 1997
Bas Rutten. 1999
Kevin Randleman. 1999
Randy Couture. 2000
Josh Barnett. 2002
Rico Rodriguez. 2002
Tim Sylvia. 2003
Frank Mir. 2004
Andre Arlovski. 2005
Tim Sylvia. 2006
Randy Couture. 2007
Antonio Nogueira 2008
Brock Lesnar. 2008
Cain Velasquez. 2010
Junior Dos Santos 2011
Cain Velasquez. 2012
Fabricio Werdum. 2014
Stipe Miocic. 2016
Daniel Cormier. 2018
Stipe Miocic. 2019
Francis Ngannou 2021
Jon Jones. 2023

Half those guys Ngannou beat we’re past prime guys . I saw UFC 1 contracts in person you ain’t going to nothing here SON . Your boxing talk on here is atrocious and I’m betting if I really dove in on you here concerning MMA it would be worse . Your literally in the twilight zone on here I can’t imagine what articles you posted would look like ? You didn’t even know why Usyk wasn’t ranked in the WBC and talk as if your a knowledgeable person on here? Gtfoh .Lol

[strykr619]

Half those guys Ngannou beat we’re past prime guys . I saw UFC 1 contracts in person you ain’t going to nothing here SON . Your boxing talk on here is atrocious and I’m betting if I really dove in on you here concerning MMA it would be worse . Your literally in the twilight zone on here I can’t imagine what articles you posted would look like ? Lol

To be impartial thou, your fight who is in front of you. Ngannou is good but he isn't the monster that people are trying to hype him up to be. JBJ would eat that man up for lunch.

[juggernaut666]

To be impartial thou, your fight who is in front of you. Ngannou is good but he isn't the monster that people are trying to hype him up to be. JBJ would eat that man up for lunch.

Ngannou is not the goat he can’t be with his record and no record title defenses that’s just a fact . The heavyweight division is a crazy thing in UFC heavyweight division. I think no one’s ever defended the title 4/5 times ?

[Willow The Wisp]

Ok...sure...lets be honest. Fury won his first belt jacked on steroids, fought Wilder 3 times and Derick Chisora 3 times and other than that, Fury hasn't done jack shyt. World champions might NOT be elected but they certainly are NOT self appointed. And since we are being honest, apart from the spelling and punctuation your post may be the ******est justification I've read in along time. How is that, honest enough?

Badly misinformed, but yes, perfectly honest.
Being the champion is a natural process where the cream floats to the top.

[Willow The Wisp]

Half those guys Ngannou beat we’re past prime guys . I saw UFC 1 contracts in person you ain’t going to nothing here SON . Your boxing talk on here is atrocious and I’m betting if I really dove in on you here concerning MMA it would be worse . Your literally in the twilight zone on here I can’t imagine what articles you posted would look like ? You didn’t even know why Usyk wasn’t ranked in the WBC and talk as if your a knowledgeable person on here? Gtfoh .Lol

Diagnosis: A Big UFC fan prepping for the beating that is to come.

[crimsonfalcon07]

To be impartial thou, your fight who is in front of you. Ngannou is good but he isn't the monster that people are trying to hype him up to be. JBJ would eat that man up for lunch.

Jones is a PED cheat and a felon who hid from Ngannou for 3 years. And Ngannou at least beat the guy with the most UFC heavyweight defenses (only 3).