Shakur is the most avoided in boxing at the moment

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  • Silence
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    Shakur is the most avoided in boxing at the moment

    Haney offered him 25% like a ***in joke and cried like Shakur ducked him. Shakur deserved at least 35%. And, I am generous to Haney because of his undisputed run.

    Frank Martin literally made one of the most obvious duckings in my recent memory. They talked and dealt. Then he suddenly cancelled the fight.

    I am Loma fan but he doesn't wanna fight Shakur as well. If they didn't rob him in Haney, maybe he could have retained his belts against Shakur. But, he doesn't wanna fight right now.

    He is struggling to find opponents. He gotta move up or accept Haney's BS offer.
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    It just makes no sense financially or otherwise to fight him.
    He isn't a draw, he isn't a name, he doesn't even have a title. Outside of hardcore fans he isn't known.

    Why would anybody fight him though when so many fighters in or around the weight like Tank, Haney, Loma, Garcia, Teo and so on bring so much more to the table?

    And I think its good because in all honesty he is largely unproven.
    The same people who claim others like Boots as being eye-test, unproven, not worthy of fighting Crawford need too keep the same standards when it comes to Shakur.

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      #3
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      It just makes no sense financially or otherwise to fight him.
      He isn't a draw, he isn't a name, he doesn't even have a title. Outside of hardcore fans he isn't known.

      Why would anybody fight him though when so many fighters in or around the weight like Tank, Haney, Loma, Garcia, Teo and so on bring so much more to the table?

      And I think its good because in all honesty he is largely unproven.
      The same people who claim others like Boots as being eye-test, unproven, not worthy of fighting Crawford need too keep the same standards when it comes to Shakur.
      You're Boots and Haney fan. Of course you don't like Shakur. He will get his BS belts which should have got owned by Loma easily.

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        #4
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        It just makes no sense financially or otherwise to fight him.
        He isn't a draw, he isn't a name, he doesn't even have a title. Outside of hardcore fans he isn't known.

        Why would anybody fight him though when so many fighters in or around the weight like Tank, Haney, Loma, Garcia, Teo and so on bring so much more to the table?

        And I think its good because in all honesty he is largely unproven.
        The same people who claim others like Boots as being eye-test, unproven, not worthy of fighting Crawford need too keep the same standards when it comes to Shakur.
        Difference is Shakura wants everybody, including 2nd tier, 3rd tier fighters. Meaning, he's not scared of losing to a nobody. Ennis, otoh, only wants the top guys, high risk, high reward types, which is good, IF there are plenty of these high reward types. He'd rather stay inactive waiting for only heavens know what.

        What do you think? Would you rather see Boots Ennis wait for a year waiting for...only heavens know what, or stay active?
        Last edited by brettWall; 09-13-2023, 05:05 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          It just makes no sense financially or otherwise to fight him.
          He isn't a draw, he isn't a name, he doesn't even have a title. Outside of hardcore fans he isn't known.

          Why would anybody fight him though when so many fighters in or around the weight like Tank, Haney, Loma, Garcia, Teo and so on bring so much more to the table?

          And I think its good because in all honesty he is largely unproven.
          The same people who claim others like Boots as being eye-test, unproven, not worthy of fighting Crawford need too keep the same standards when it comes to Shakur.
          This is true and so when Frank Martin asked for an even split, that wasn't crazy at all, imo.

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            #6
            shakur is so avoided he doesnt have any friends, they are all avoiding him

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              I understand boxing is also a business so I'm definitely not saying Shakur should fight for cheap everytime, but no matter how you slice it Shakur is currently a beltless boxer at light weight but good enough where the opponent is getting a high risk no return situation, which probably is a big reason on to why he can't get opponents. Shakur is still young enough and if he is truly confident with his ability to win, why can't he just take the ****ty money offer from Haney if it is actually available so that he can become a unified champion with a win, then have the reward (belts) available on his side so he can negotiate with more advantage financially instead of waiting endlessly for better deals that likely won't come without belts on him.

              Wouldn't that be a better financial deal in the long run?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Elheath
                I understand boxing is also a business so I'm definitely not saying Shakur should fight for cheap everytime, but no matter how you slice it Shakur is currently a beltless boxer at light weight but good enough where the opponent is getting a high risk no return situation, which probably is a big reason on to why he can't get opponents. Shakur is still young enough and if he is truly confident with his ability to win, why can't he just take the ****ty money offer from Haney if it is actually available so that he can become a unified champion with a win, then have the reward (belts) available on his side so he can negotiate with more advantage financially instead of waiting endlessly for better deals that likely won't come without belts on him.

                Wouldn't that be a better financial deal in the long run?
                Come on. 25% is straight disgrace.

                I understand 65/35 or 60/40. But 75/25 is the other way to say "I am ducking Shakur and I gonna blame him."

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  It just makes no sense financially or otherwise to fight him.
                  He isn't a draw, he isn't a name, he doesn't even have a title. Outside of hardcore fans he isn't known.

                  Why would anybody fight him though when so many fighters in or around the weight like Tank, Haney, Loma, Garcia, Teo and so on bring so much more to the table?

                  And I think its good because in all honesty he is largely unproven.
                  The same people who claim others like Boots as being eye-test, unproven, not worthy of fighting Crawford need too keep the same standards when it comes to Shakur.
                  Shakur gets good ratings on ESPN and he draws in New Jersey.

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                    #10
                    I think Shakur's real issue is he might not want to pay the cost to be the boss. Making necessary concessions now would pay off in the long run.

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