I got this feeling Charlo is going to beat Cleneloterol

[tomhawq]

Clenebuterol is not Castanyo brother.

[IronDanHamza]

Ryder is a BUM. He lost to Rocky Fielding man, come on lol. I thought Jamie Fox did movies and comedy?

I nearly typed Jamie Foxx when I wrote it.

I thought he beat Fielding to be fair, and definitely Smith. You’re giving him a bad wrap he’s not a bum

I agree with you though far from elite. I would like him to beat both Charlos though.

[dan_cov]

He lost every round vs Jackson until landing a bomb.
He was on even terms with Harrison over 24 rounds even with scoring more knockdowns than I can count. The fights with Castano, he barely beat Trout or Vanes.

My point is he gives up way, way too many rounds in virtually every single fight for me to even begin to envision him getting a decision vs Canelo and I'd be mind blown if he stopped him.

I've not looked in detail admittedly but with the above logic I simply have to dismiss his chances.

[alexnation]

No chance. Neither Charlo got anything on Canelo. Easy work for Saul

[Tatabanya]

I'll be monitoring this one very closely.

Me too

I believe Canelo is approaching the end.

[War Room]

I nearly typed Jamie Foxx when I wrote it.

I thought he beat Fielding to be fair, and definitely Smith. You’re giving him a bad wrap he’s not a bum

I agree with you though far from elite. I would like him to beat both Charlos though.

I couldn't resist lol. Fielding is terrible and I don't really rate Smith. He's got no wins at the world level. Just a bunch of local yokels. Even if C- level beats B- level, it's meaningless.

He lost every round vs Jackson until landing a bomb.
He was on even terms with Harrison over 24 rounds even with scoring more knockdowns than I can count. The fights with Castano, he barely beat Trout or Vanes.

My point is he gives up way, way too many rounds in virtually every single fight for me to even begin to envision him getting a decision vs Canelo and I'd be mind blown if he stopped him.

I've not looked in detail admittedly but with the above logic I simply have to dismiss his chances.

Clenelo gives up way too many rounds too. I thought he was losing to Kovaquit who was clearly cracked, shot, old, rehydration clause, and for 70 days after his last fight that he almost got knocked out in.

Speaking of Trout, I thought Trout gave him a lot of problems. He was losing to Khan too until he caught him.

Me too

I believe Canelo is approaching the end.

Keep me posted.

[djtmal]

• I know he's moving up two classes...
• I know he's had two left hand fractures (allegedly) from sparring last December...
• I know he's been out 16 months by the time the fight takes place...
• I know the only reason he got the fight is Team Clenny thinks he's a wounded gazelle in the Serengeti...

But I know this =---> Charlo isn't going to be gunshy like a lot of these guys have been.

One thing I noticed recently =---> Cleneloterols head and face looks really swollen, like I'm not sure what it is, but he looks like he's a lite beer drinking plumber or something. Something looks really off with him. His head didn't look like this against Ryder.

I didn't watch the entire Ryder fight, just the DAZN highlight reel and Ryder was landing A LOT of shots. That ring was extremely small, Ryder is a bummer, broken nose in the 2nd round, 35 years old, C- level eurocan that lost to Rocky Fielding LMAO, 5'9" midge =---> Cleneloterol couldn't get him out of there and was landing the kitchen sink on him.

One thing that's a contstant, don't bet against Clenelo, but I'm really considering this +300 on Charlo and I rarely wager on dogs =---> I could count on one hand. I'll be monitoring this one very closely.

Whatever this guy says, do the opposite and you will come out a winner

[Inoue Body Shot]

Canelo vs Charlo is going to be a very very entertaining fight...

[dan_cov]

I couldn't resist lol. Fielding is terrible and I don't really rate Smith. He's got no wins at the world level. Just a bunch of local yokels. Even if C- level beats B- level, it's meaningless.



Clenelo gives up way too many rounds too. I thought he was losing to Kovaquit who was clearly cracked, shot, old, rehydration clause, and for 70 days after his last fight that he almost got knocked out in.

Speaking of Trout, I thought Trout gave him a lot of problems. He was losing to Khan too until he caught him.



Keep me posted.

He certainly does no denying that its more I feel Canelo can afford to as the judges always seem to favour him.
Jermell to have any chance of getting a decision can't afford to drop so many rounds, he has too win real clean I'd imagine, like Bivol did and even then all 3 judges scored that 115-113. I didn't see him win 5 rounds. At least that is what I'd speculate.

They had him ahead against Khan, they had him beating Trout by a landslide - I thought this was very competitive and gave Trout way more rounds based on his workrate.
117-111 vs Lara, GGG fights, SD vs Floyd lol, even the Plant fight I had a little closer than the judges.
I think anyone that fights Canelo is going to need to beat him super cleanly to have any hope of a getting the nod.

[War Room]

He certainly does no denying that its more I feel Canelo can afford to as the judges always seem to favour him.
Jermell to have any chance of getting a decision can't afford to drop so many rounds, he has too win real clean I'd imagine, like Bivol did and even then all 3 judges scored that 115-113. I didn't see him win 5 rounds. At least that is what I'd speculate.

They had him ahead against Khan, they had him beating Trout by a landslide - I thought this was very competitive and gave Trout way more rounds based on his workrate.
117-111 vs Lara, GGG fights, SD vs Floyd lol, even the Plant fight I had a little closer than the judges.
I think anyone that fights Canelo is going to need to beat him super cleanly to have any hope of a getting the nod.

Mexico loves a ginger, go figure.

Like I said in my OP, you only get so many passes from fixed judges. If you haven't noticed, they NEVER get busted. They know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. There will come a time where real scores start surfacing and it could be sooner than some might think.

Metrics worth noting are buying power =--->

• vs Floyd Mayweather- 2,200,000 (Showtime – September 14, 2013)
• vs Alfredo Angulo – 350,000 (Showtime – March 8, 2014)
• vs Eryslandy Lara – 300,000 (Showtime – July 12, 2014)
• vs Miguel Cotto – 900,000 (HBO – November 21, 2015)
• vs Amir Khan – 600,000 (HBO – May 7, 2016)
• vs Liam Smith – 300,000 (HBO – September 17, 2016)
• vs Julio César Chávez Jr. – 1,000,000 (HBO – May 6, 2017)
• vs Gennadiy Golovkin – 1,300,000 (HBO – September 16, 2017)
• vs Gennadiy Golovkin II – 1,100,000 (HBO – September 15, 2018)
• vs Caleb Plant – 800,000 (Showtime – November 6, 2021)
• vs Dmitry Bivol – 520,000 (Dazn – May 7, 2022)
• vs Golovkin III – 550,000 (Dazn – September 17, 2022)
• vs John Ryder – 300K-400K estimate (Dazn – May 6, 2023)

Those numbers are not fact-checked, but it doesn't matter =---> what matters is how they're trending. Ryder did somewhere around ~300k and maybe Glaser says it's even less. Once the numbers start dropping, the fringe benefits are more likely to stop as well.

All speculation, but I used to make a killing on fixes and been observing closely for decades now.