I got this feeling Charlo is going to beat Cleneloterol

[boxingfan91]

Either way I'd love for his bltchass to lose

Yup, he's a bltchass nukka

[Charlie Zelenoff]

I wouldn't mind it but I don't see it. Charlo can't deal with pressure nor does he have the ring IQ to deal with Nelo. Mell will be star struck in that ring. Plus we don't know how his stamina will be affected with all that extra weight or if he can take Canelo's best shots.

[Kzbox]

Nah i think Charlo is gonna get busted up and knocked out round 9/10

[War Room]

I can’t see it myself.

Never really rated the Charlo’s and they aren’t his weight class.

Did you watch the Ryder fight? Ryder was landing at will and he's a 2 bit bum. Clenny was landing the kitchen sink on Ryder and couldn't get it done. I think Clenelo is compromised. Fighters get old over-night and he did take an arse whipping against Bivol. Maybe he lost something that night he'll never get back. He was not impressive against Ryder at all despite everything in his favor.

A lot of people argue with me, but I'm far from alone in my belief that Jacobs beat Canelo and add to that fact there was a point in the fight Jacobs stop throwing the right hand despite it landing every time he threw it. Clenelo has aged greatly since then, he doesn't fight like that anymore and Charlo is a much fresher version version of Jacobs (perhaps less skilled) at that point in his career. But like I said, Jacobs took his foot off the gas for whatever reason. Charlo has everything to prove right now, he's gotten no respect for getting all the belts and he knows it...he's enraged. Clenelo is on the way out, the writing is on the wall.

From my experience capping, the way fixing works =---> you only get so many passes because nobody wants to lose their jobs. Even though Bivol won, those scores were fixed. Judges pull back when under the microscope =---> Cheatham, Moretti, and Weisfeld are clearly under the microscope right now. Look at how many fights of his those guys worked. If any of them are on the panel, I wouldn't count on them to pull the trigger. Nobody knows what those guys get paid, but I'll wager they don't get manila envelopes with a million in it. These guys survive the tide for a reason.

Watching tape of Charlo doesn't really make me think he's got a good chance. He frequently brings his right hand back low after a 1-2, which is just asking to get clipped by a hook. Canelo has a very good hook, and he usually doesn't neglect the body, which slows the feet of a mover. Since Canelo's style involves a lot of counters, his opponents have to be defensively responsible, and Mell has a few big flaws there. He's up against a much better puncher than his usual as well.

Also, Canelo's last fight was in Mexico. Maybe he had some of those tacos after the fight...

The guys Charlo has been fighting are much more busier than Clenny. Cleneloterol is pot-shotting a lot now. It's hard for me to see that working against Charlo, despite the deficits. Cherlo would really have to put himself in a bad position for that shit to work and Charlo is pretty sharp. Clenny only counters well against lesser fighters with limited tools in the bag. Khan was winning until he got caught and Khan gets caught a lot because he was extremely sloppy. Charlo is nowhere as sloppy as Khan was. I don't think he's going to find Charlo's body as frequently as some will and he's going to have a hard time countering Jerms handspeed and how he puts punches together. Charlo isn't exactly Mr. Careless.

Taco's or not, that fight was 3 months ago and it looks like he's aged 5 years. IRL, one thing I've noticed about people and aging is aging happens in spurts, it's not gradual as most tend to think. Something has happened to him, look at the video, he's face and neck are swollen, never in his life has he looked like this. Whatever it is, it's not going his way.

[MONGOOSE66]

• I know he's moving up two classes...
• I know he's had two left hand fractures (allegedly) from sparring last December...
• I know he's been out 16 months by the time the fight takes place...
• I know the only reason he got the fight is Team Clenny thinks he's a wounded gazelle in the Serengeti...

But I know this =---> Charlo isn't going to be gunshy like a lot of these guys have been.

One thing I noticed recently =---> Cleneloterols head and face looks really swollen, like I'm not sure what it is, but he looks like he's a lite beer drinking plumber or something. Something looks really off with him. His head didn't look like this against Ryder.

I didn't watch the entire Ryder fight, just the DAZN highlight reel and Ryder was landing A LOT of shots. That ring was extremely small, Ryder is a bummer, broken nose in the 2nd round, 35 years old, C- level eurocan that lost to Rocky Fielding LMAO, 5'9" midge =---> Cleneloterol couldn't get him out of there and was landing the kitchen sink on him.

One thing that's a contstant, don't bet against Clenelo, but I'm really considering this +300 on Charlo and I rarely wager on dogs =---> I could count on one hand. I'll be monitoring this one very closely.

The Charlo's are americas version of the bums he fought in Europe. Only person out there that can currently best Canelo is Bivol of course and maybe Benavides.
I think Benavides is a big IF more and more cause he has a hard time making 168. Canelo's just hoping Beni keeps eating, which he is doing.

[War Room]

The Charlo's are americas version of the bums he fought in Europe. Only person out there that can currently best Canelo is Bivol of course and maybe Benavides.
I think Benavides is a big IF more and more cause he has a hard time making 168. Canelo's just hoping Beni keeps eating, which he is doing.

Charlo's aren't bums and definitely not a valid comparison to eurocans lmao. Don't forget about Beterbiev, and Andrade, and anyone else with a pulse.

[IronDanHamza]

Did you watch the Ryder fight? Ryder was landing at will and he's a 2 bit bum. Clenny was landing the kitchen sink on Ryder and couldn't get it done. I think Clenelo is compromised. Fighters get old over-night and he did take an arse whipping against Bivol. Maybe he lost something that night he'll never get back. He was not impressive against Ryder at all despite everything in his favor.

A lot of people argue with me, but I'm far from alone in my belief that Jacobs beat Canelo and add to that fact there was a point in the fight Jacobs stop throwing the right hand despite it landing every time he threw it. Clenelo has aged greatly since then, he doesn't fight like that anymore and Charlo is a much fresher version version of Jacobs (perhaps less skilled) at that point in his career. But like I said, Jacobs took his foot off the gas for whatever reason. Charlo has everything to prove right now, he's gotten no respect for getting all the belts and he knows it...he's enraged. Clenelo is on the way out, the writing is on the wall.

From my experience capping, the way fixing works =---> you only get so many passes because nobody wants to lose their jobs. Even though Bivol won, those scores were fixed. Judges pull back when under the microscope =---> Cheatham, Moretti, and Weisfeld are clearly under the microscope right now. Look at how many fights of his those guys worked. If any of them are on the panel, I wouldn't count on them to pull the trigger. Nobody knows what those guys get paid, but I'll wager they don't get manila envelopes with a million in it. These guys survive the tide for a reason.



The guys Charlo has been fighting are much more busier than Clenny. Cleneloterol is pot-shotting a lot now. It's hard for me to see that working against Charlo, despite the deficits. Cherlo would really have to put himself in a bad position for that shit to work and Charlo is pretty sharp. Clenny only counters well against lesser fighters with limited tools in the bag. Khan was winning until he got caught and Khan gets caught a lot because he was extremely sloppy. Charlo is nowhere as sloppy as Khan was. I don't think he's going to find Charlo's body as frequently as some will and he's going to have a hard time countering Jerms handspeed and how he puts punches together. Charlo isn't exactly Mr. Careless.

Taco's or not, that fight was 3 months ago and it looks like he's aged 5 years. IRL, one thing I've noticed about people and aging is aging happens in spurts, it's not gradual as most tend to think. Something has happened to him, look at the video, he's face and neck are swollen, never in his life has he looked like this. Whatever it is, it's not going his way.

I’ll be honest no I didn’t watch that fight.

I think Ryder’s alright, was ringside when he knocked out Jamie Cox. He’s far from elite but he’s a good fighter, I could see him beating Charlo for sure, who I just don’t rate. I don’t see anything impressive with those two myself.

I can’t see him beating Canelo but I guess we will see. I’ll tune in for sure.

[War Room]

I’ll be honest no I didn’t watch that fight.

I think Ryder’s alright, was ringside when he knocked out Jamie Cox. He’s far from elite but he’s a good fighter, I could see him beating Charlo for sure, who I just don’t rate. I don’t see anything impressive with those two myself.

I can’t see him beating Canelo but I guess we will see. I’ll tune in for sure.

Ryder is a BUM. He lost to Rocky Fielding man, come on lol. I thought Jamie Fox did movies and comedy?

[Teetotaler69]

Yup, he's a bltchass nukka

Yee he reminds me of you. He'd be a perfect fif street poosey

[hhh1200]

Crawford has a better chance in one year. Skillsets are there like RJJ to move up and do an one off. Just Crawford would retire vs. get beat senseless after going back down.

Too many problems with guys like Castona and Jackson to beat Canelo