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Floyd may have beaten all those guys but he definitely wouldn’t have been the same after. Williams and Margarito would’ve put hands on Floyd on size, strength and activity alone.Comment
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That dude has been retired already for a while but some are still hurt that he existed. I remember that he did a hit list when he came out of retirement and I think he fought all the guys in the list.Comment
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“arguments can be made” lol he’s on video ****ting his pants in both cases.
It was a swerve with Martinez, and he’s in video again engaging in cowardly rhetoric rather than just giving the people what they want. Floyd vs Sergio at 154when both were flying high would have been ****ing incredibleComment
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No he’s not but it’s neither here nor there, you can make the argument that he avoided those fights at particular times, that’s a long drawn out argument where cases can be made for both sides of the argument rationally.
Youre talking nonsense about Martinez and you clearly were not watching the sport at the time. 154? When was Sergio and Floyd ever at 154 at the same time? Sergio was Middleweight Champion in what? 2010 I think it was? Floyd was at Welterweight then and had one fight there where he weighed in at 150.
Margarito and Pacquaio were in serious discussion for a Floyd fight, whilst they were in the same weight class. Offers were made, negotiatons, etc
Floyd and Martinez were NEVER in any kind of discususon. That fight wasn’t even entertained at any point. They were two weight classes apart at the time. For you to say he ducked Martinez is just not true, and revisionist history. Like most of this thread.
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No easy answer to this question. Margarito had a bit of an insulated fan base, would not want to say "cult" but he was one of those fighters that always seemed more popular than he was across all demographics. Not taking anything away from him... But his fan base was entrenched in a segment in the sport, mostly comprised of a sample of Mexican boxing fans, who respected his style and approach. Not all mexican fans... Not the same appeal as a Marquez, Barrera, etc... Baldomir had a European following, and Guerrero, another Mexican American fighter, probably had at least the appeal, when considering the total boxing fan base, as Margarito.
I am sympathetic to arguments about whom Floyd fought... I do think he chose his competition at times, etc... But I also do not see an upside to a bruising fight with a guy who would be seriously outboxed, but could have well managed to injure Floyd. Gatti was imo a more refined brawler type, who fought with less 'pointy areas' lol... A fight with Margarito meant knees, elbows, forearms, for what? what did floyd gain beating such an opponent.
The proof is how Margarito fared against other elite boxer punchers. He fcked Cotto up using illegal tactics and was repaid in spades when his hands were wrapped properly. Manny showed again, the same thing. Floyd beating Margarito would have gotten him very little... potentially causing him a lot of problems unrelated to Margarito's actual abilities. Floyd was right in this case.Comment
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Fans voted for Khan over Maidana when Floyd pulled that publicity stunt for fans to choose his next opponent. He chose Maidana, who was already defeated by Khan.
When he ducked Margarito, that would have been Floyd's highest pay day to date at $8 million. He was visibly shaken when Margarito approached him in public to challenge him in the ring.
I remember when Floyd wanted to avoid a fighter one of his tactics was to cite his losses. Manny has 5 losses so he doesn't deserve a shot. Yet he fought Zab who had four losses and was just coming off a loss to Baldomir who had 9 losses. A fight in which he should have been DQ'd. When he finally fought 38 year old Mosley, he had 6 losses. This of course set the tone for the current state of affairs in boxing where no one wants to risk their "0" in the loss column.Comment
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