Floyd ducked the top guys from 147-154 during a 2 year span

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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #51
    Originally posted by satiev1

    Don't forget paul williams who beat margarito.
    Paul Williams was huge and powerful. Very similar the Diego Corrales. Mayweather and Corrales met in their primes and Mayweather KO’d him. I do t think Mayweather would have KO’d Willliams but he would have out pointed him.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran

      Would more people have watched Floyd vs Margo or Floyd vs Martinez than Floyd vs Baldomir/Guerrero?
      Fair question but avoids the point made.

      Floyd v Baldomir was done to set up the Floyd v ODH.

      That fight was going to sell more than Floyd v Margs or Martinez.

      I think Floyd v Martinez sells more than Floyd v Ghost. Floyd v Ghost sold over 1mil.

      Again, the objective metrics make it clear fans wanted these fights.

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        #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        Fair question but avoids the point made.

        Floyd v Baldomir was done to set up the Floyd v ODH.

        That fight was going to sell more than Floyd v Margs or Martinez.

        I think Floyd v Martinez sells more than Floyd v Ghost. Floyd v Ghost sold over 1mil.

        Again, the objective metrics make it clear fans wanted these fights.
        No this is false.

        Floyd vs. Baldymir only took the place of Floyd/Margarito he cherrypicked Baldymir over Margarito for the same $ 8 million Oscar was nowhere in the picture yet.

        Floyd vs. Baldymir was an absolute stinker and Floyd fought him because Zab Judah lost to him, then to further duck Margarito he cherrypicked Zab. Nobody was clamoring for Floyd/Baldymir and the arena was half empty by the championship rounds. Much respect to Larry Merchant who called Floyd out in the postfight interview on how bad the fight ******

        It wasn't setting up no Oscar fight that's absolute bs who would pay to see Floyd stink up the joint with Oscar after that horrifying Baldymir fiasco

        How these Floyd boys try to spin revisionist history because most of these cats wasn't even born when all this shsh was going down is horrifying.
        Last edited by djtmal; 08-10-2023, 03:53 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by djtmal

          No this is false.

          Floyd vs. Baldymir only took the place of Floyd/Margarito he cherrypicked Baldymir over Margarito for the same $ 8 million Oscar was nowhere in the picture yet.

          Floyd vs. Baldymir was an absolute stinker and Floyd fought him because Zab Judah lost to him, then to further duck Margarito he cherrypicked Zab. Nobody was clamoring for Floyd/Baldymir and the arena was half empty by the championship rounds.

          It wasn't setting up no Oscar fight that's absolute bs who would pay to see Floyd stink up the joint with Oscar after that horrifying Baldymir fiasco

          How these Floyd boys try to spin history because most of these cats was even born when all this shsh was going down is horrifying.
          Youre lying as usual.

          He fought Baldomir after he bought out his TR contract because Bob wouldnt make the ODH fight.

          The Zab fight was already signed before he lost to Baldomir.

          Over 2 mil people paid to see it on ppv, I also believe the largest box office in Nevada for a boxing match at that point.

          Like I posted, any objective metric you use shows fans wanted to see these fights.

          Now guys like you that view the world dreaming of Manny’s pubic hair in your mouth may not have wanted to see those fights.

          You guys arent really boxing fans but pole smokers so it’s understandable.

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            Youre lying as usual.

            He fought Baldomir after he bought out his TR contract because Bob wouldnt make the ODH fight.

            The Zab fight was already signed before he lost to Baldomir.

            Over 2 mil people paid to see it on ppv, I also believe the largest box office in Nevada for a boxing match at that point.

            Like I posted, any objective metric you use shows fans wanted to see these fights.

            Now guys like you that view the world dreaming of Manny’s pubic hair in your mouth may not have wanted to see those fights.

            You guys arent really boxing fans but pole smokers so it’s understandable.

            None of that has nothing to do with him backing out of a fight with Margarito for the same 8 million he got for that horrific fight with Carlos Baldymir. You just think these excuses mean something

            You saying Floyd vs Carlos Baldymir set up a fight with Oscar. That is some straight bs
            Last edited by djtmal; 08-10-2023, 04:15 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by djtmal


              None of that has nothing to do with him backing out of a fight with Margarito for the same 8 million he got for that fight with Carlos Baldymir. You just think these excuses mean something

              You saying Floyd vs Carlos Baldymir set up a fight with Oscar. That is some straight bs
              He didnt back out of anything. He wanted odh, bob said he wouldnt make it, so he did what he needed to do to make that fight.

              You can whine about it all you wish.

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                #57
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                He didnt back out of anything. He wanted odh, bob said he wouldnt make it, so he did what he needed to do to make that fight.

                You can whine about it all you wish.
                He backed out of a 8 million fight with Margarito. That's well documented.

                You seem to think we should acknowledge why but we don't

                Same way he backed out of fights with Winky Wright and Manny Pacquaio

                Same way he welched Amir Khan when Khan won the fake poll he had

                All this stuff is well documented you can pull up any excuse you want
                Last edited by djtmal; 08-10-2023, 04:27 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  He didnt back out of anything.
                  Yes he did. You just have a problem admitting it because it's the same as saying he was scared to fight those guys, which we know he was

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    He didnt back out of anything.
                    This is what your boy later on said about ducking Margarito:

                    “He (Antonio Margarito) wanted to fight so bad because he was beating fighters with loaded gloves. So I’m glad that God never let that fight happen. Because you don’t know what kind of effect that would have had on my career after boxing is over or he could end up killing me in the ring you don’t know what could happen.”

                    Sounds like an admission of ducking the guy because he was scared.

                    Only thing it wasn't God that didn't allow the fight to happen it was your boy
                    Last edited by djtmal; 08-10-2023, 04:43 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Fair question but avoids the point made.

                      Floyd v Baldomir was done to set up the Floyd v ODH.

                      That fight was going to sell more than Floyd v Margs or Martinez.

                      I think Floyd v Martinez sells more than Floyd v Ghost. Floyd v Ghost sold over 1mil.

                      Again, the objective metrics make it clear fans wanted these fights.
                      I would have preferred Floyd to fight Margarito instead of Zab Judah.

                      The Baldomir situation is a one in a million time scenario. Realistically the best thing would have been Judah win his warm up, fight Floyd like was planned then winner fight Margarito but boxing isn’t ideal most of the time.

                      Anyway, personally still think Floyd should have took that fight but the politics was rife then between Floyd and Arum so there’s a lot of issues there but Floyd could have fought Margarito if he wanted, he should have in my opinion.

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