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  • #31
    Ennis will have to wait until 2025 to fight Spence. Maybe feed him Barrios until then. Or he can have Ellis for a snack mid 2024.

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    • #32
      I doubt Spence stays at WW, it's amazing he's still there. People forget he should've been dead a few years ago.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

        Lets be honest, Boots Ennis isn't a draw and his team isn't about to risk taking a loss and potentially stop the gravy train before the train eaves the station. More over, neither Spence or Crawford are looking to fight for peanuts.

        Get this straight, Spence and Crawford have a big money fight and rematch in 2024 and then more big fights at 154lbs in 2025. The real question,why would any of these 3 fighters risk their status for a no money fight and the honest answer is they won't. The truth is that team Ennis really has no intention of fighting either guy until they are proven past their peak or beatable and that hasn't happened.
        Ennis is high risk low reward. His way to improve the reward side of the equation for prospective opponents, as with all boxers in his position, is to get a belt. There is no need for him to avoid the heat. If he fights either of the two champs it's a win-win situation for him. Lose and he gets paid a career high sum and has time to come again. Win and the pay and prestige climbs astronomically.
        But you are correct that Bud and Spence will most likely move to 154. I don't mind that. It is the way of boxing - always has been. What I do mind is that the belts get held hostage for months, even years - it causes a whole division to stagnate.
        Taylor did that at 140. Charlo is now doing that at 154. Canelo is doing it at 168. Haney could be about to do it at 135.
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        • #34
          A couple of my own thoughts:

          If Boots wants that smoke, or vice versa, I’m all for it. I don’t care whether or not he’s “ready,” if the best want to fight the best, just go for it.

          I personally feel he has more than a puncher’s chance. I wouldn’t pick one over the other, really. But it would be a great fight. Yeah, Boots is still a little flawed but he’s got time to work on it.
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          • #35
            Ennis will have to wait. No worries. Everybody does the same thing, why not?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
              He still wouldn’t be next. Stanionis is ahead of Ennis in the mandatory line-up. So he needs to stop pretending that this fight will fall on his lap.
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              He’s not pretending. How did you come up with that?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by buddyr View Post
                Boots has some very bad habits. From the outside, he's fast and has good pop. On the inside, he's not as good. Though he was winning every round, I didn't like what I saw in his last 2 fights on the inside. He gets hit too much by inferior opponents and has a tendency of slipping a punch, popping up and pulling back.
                That's an interesting observation, one I will monitor in his next fight.

                Originally posted by buddyr View Post
                He has succeeded at playing the "wait game" and convinced the boxing world everyone was ducking him. Crawford turned pro in 2008 and by his 6th year as a pro, he won a title and then fought Gambo. Granted he was past his best weight class, but unbeated and a worthy opponent. Spence was in his 5th year as a pro when Kell Brooke could no longer run and he went to his homeland and crushed him. He activated his mandatory spot and got the fight he wanted. Boots aint activated ****.
                Not being signed with a major promotional team might have slowed his career progression somewhat. He's in his prime. He needs big fights now, even if forced up to 154 temporarily.

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                • #38
                  Not being signed with a major promotional team might have slowed his career progression somewhat. He's in his prime. He needs big fights now, even if forced up to 154 temporarily.

                  I don't like that idea. Right now Jaron says he can make 147 comfortably. If he starts fighting at 154 he will find it really painful to ever make 147 again. Look at Broner, he struggled but made 135. Once he went to 147 he could never make 135 or even 140 again. I know you can say Jaron is a lot better disciplined than Broner but, still. going down in weight is hell. Every fighter will tell you that.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SteveM View Post

                    there's levels of scared.
                    From a 10 - which is 'shit your pants' right down to a 1 which is "I don't want that work."

                    Special mention for number 9 which is 'flee the ring' as we saw 2/3 years back

                    Lets see which of Thurman, Ugas, Stanionis, Bud and Spence want the work with Boots.

                    I like Thurman - say before 2019 - but he is done as a serious contender for the elite now - far far far too inactive - mountains of rust
                    I won't say Keith is done until he gives a done performance.

                    As for the "flee the ring", if we're thinking about the same guy, I think the was doing that in protest, though I don't recall what his point was.
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                    • #40
                      Like Jaron said, hope its not close. If it is a 'D', or a close 'SD" or even if one guy wins by stoppage but the other man was well ahead at that point then that will certainly mean a rematch, which isn't likely to happen before May 24, perhaps as late as July 24. So Jaron wouldn't get his shot until, earliest, December 24, more probably early 25. That is really not fair on the kid.
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