We know fairly little about Usyk....

[JakeTheBoxer]

But I thought you only count wins that happened recently?

Or do you just pick and choose when you do that?

Are you dumb or are you playing dumb?

Fury`s problem is not that he beat Klitschko in 2015. His problem is he only beat two top 10 guys since than.

I will recognize him as a true champ when he will fight other top contenders, as the true champ should do.

I won`t say he is better than Usyk, Joyce, Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Bakole, Hrgovic...he beat none of these guys.

[crimsonfalcon07]

No.

Look man , it is not my problem that you have some issues with my opinion about Fury.

There's also explanations for that fight that certain people like to overlook because they want to hate on Usyk. Single fights against one opponent very rarely tell a relevant story about how a fighter will do in another fight. That's pretty well understood when it involves someone's favorite fighter, but then goes out the window when it comes to the ones that they want to hate on.

[JakeTheBoxer]

There's also explanations for that fight that certain people like to overlook because they want to hate on Usyk. Single fights against one opponent very rarely tell a relevant story about how a fighter will do in another fight. That's pretty well understood when it involves someone's favorite fighter, but then goes out the window when it comes to the ones that they want to hate on.

Yep. Bivol also had much more trouble with Craig Richards than with Canelo.

[IronDanHamza]

Are you dumb or are you playing dumb?

Fury`s problem is not that he beat Klitschko in 2015. His problem is he only beat two top 10 guys since than.

I will recognize him as a true champ when he will fight other top contenders, as the true champ should do.

I won`t say he is better than Usyk, Joyce, Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Bakole, Hrgovic...he beat none of these guys.

You won’t say he’s better than Bakole

No I’m simply using your logic.

You don’t count Fury’s win over Klitschko because it didn’t happen recently.

I’m wondering why you don’t hold every fighter to they weird standard.

[REMOVE SHARK 5510]

Tony Bellew usually talk **** but he said that maybe Usyk was just trying to feel the heavyweight power in Chisora fight. I might believe that. If you got Chisora winning that fight boxing isn't for you.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Plenty of fighters have fought aggressively against Usyk but it never worked. Counter-punching Usyk is the key. He's a machine. You won't take that stamina from him. You have to time him. Dubois might do that but I doubt it. Usyk didn't look great against Chazz or Chisora but he damn sure got the job done both times and he damn sure did against AJ twice. He's proven himself plenty at heavyweight and I think he'll do so again here.

[pollywog]

Can Dubois still pop shots of his bung knee ? Will he even land one clean shot ?

I see this fight as usyk cat playing with his food for 12 rounds, much like Fury v Wilder 2.

Only way Windmill or DDD can hang with Usyk and Fury is if the latter pair get sloppy and loose.

Usyk is far too disciplined for that. Fury, not so much.

[SN!PER]

Chisora has something that Dubois doesn't have, and that's a lot of fighting experience.

Usyk will find the target very easily and I won't be surprised if Daniel gets stopped due to a huge accumulation of damage.

[juggernaut666]

.....at Heavyweight.

We DO know that his technique and skill levels are supurb, honed over 350 amateur fights at the highest level.

We know that as a Cruiserweight these skills were always in evedence in brilliant wins over a strong division consisting of Rodriguez, Glowacki, Hunter, Huck, Briedis, Gassiev and Bellew, who combined for a 179-7-2 record.

We know that some fighters carry up in weight well and others don't. And, we have powerful evidence that Oleksandr Usyk Does.

We know that Usyk looked very ordinary against Chazz Witherspoon and Derek Chisora at heavyweight, and we wondered then if he'd improve.

We know he did, as he upset Anthony Joshua for some titles, then repeated the feat.

What we Don't know.......

Is he a very good heavyweight contender/beltholder who's got Anthony Joshua's number alone?
Barkley had Hearns's number. So what? He still wasn't nearly as good.

Usyk has ZERO good performances at heavyweight outside of Joshua.
He squeezed by Chisora. Some even felt DelBoy deserved the nod.

So the upcoming battle against big Daniel Dubois is bound to tell somthing that Nobody can be sure about.
Sure, Dubois has some flaws; but he has some Significant strenghts as well, and those will be tuned up and ready to tell us some truths in August.

What are your thoughts about what we will learn?

You killed any credibility by saying Fury is the goat…it’s time to delete your account and if you don’t I promise you when or if he gets knocked out by Joshua you won’t have a reason to be on here…

So let me explain why …it’s because you did everything on this forum to promote Fury ( yea i k kw your on a pay roll ) but like the other alts like him these guys just can’t defend this guy ….at least long enough to slander the other guys ( they do it very cleverly) so props to you…but Fury is the only guy not fighting real fighters in actual boxing .

Your in a for a real bad year I can tell you that ,. Lol

[Zelda]

Usyk is certainly a beatable fighter at HW.

The key to beating Usyk is not trying to outbox him which is the mistake AJ made. Instead, a HW with power, stamina, and decent skills could defeat him. Chisora had the right mindset but lacked the agility and technique. I think Wilder could get him because he will play at long-range and try to KO him plus he has good speed and stamina as well. Otherwise, Usyk absolutely schools him but Wilder will never try to box with Usyk. He could win if he connects even a few times. Fury has it all, range, skills, and IQ to use his size to bully Usyk. Fury can win both on points and KO. The rest of the HW isn't up to its potential. Perhaps younger versions of Ruiz, Ortiz, or Povetkin could have given Usyk trouble but the rest of the current HWs lack the skills and dedication required to be an elite boxer.