Do Canelo fans finally admit he is ducking Benavidez?

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  • Shadoww702
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    #61
    Originally posted by garfios

    Morell jr
    Wow! He got ballz. I would have to take Morell IMO to win.

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      #62
      Originally posted by TintaBoricua

      The whole point of this thread is to state that Canelo is ducking XYZ. He didn't need to fight Austin Trout, he took the fight and if he had gone straight for Mayweather, people would've accused him of ducking. He didn't need to fight Erislandy Lara, he took the fight and if he hadn't, people would've accused him of ducking.

      It's the way fickle boxing fans are. Detractors of a fighter will always run and find shelter to the hottest commodity and state that X fighter is ducking Y fighter.

      Canelo prolonged the GGG fight? That was a pretty quick turnaround after vacating I'd say. Most people were ducking GGG, he took him on three times and in two of those looked pretty dominant. If he hadn't, there would've even more crap flung at him that there is in this thread.

      Benavidez offers a payday, not a challenge. But to say Canelo is ducking him? Please. And after he beats him, there'll be someone else...

      There's ALWAYS someone else.




      Lol what type of boxing fan are you.... He didn't have to fight Trout or Lara? So Canelo, or whatever boxer, doesn't have to fight their contemporaries?

      Yes, Canelo prolonged the GGG by dropping his belt and choosing to fight 2 fighters that have ZERO chance at beating Canelo.

      Saying Benavidez is not a challenge is an opinion at this point, not facts. The fights have to happen in the ring. Maybe we should just cancel boxing and go straight to you for all the answers since you clearly now all the results beforehand.

      There will also be someone else? Yes there will be, this is a sport where there are always challanges and fights to be made or else the sport will die.

      If all Boricua fans have the same thought process as you it is no wonder why the state of Puerto Rican boxing is basically non-existent now.

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        #63
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

        You have an opinion and so do I. I’d love to see Canel fight Benividas but he wants to take a different road. A much tuffer road. That’s his prerogative. I kinda think Bivol thinks he has Canelo by the balls so he of course is over pricing himself. Canelo isn’t going to over pay anyone. I think he still pays well compared to other boxers
        You can have an opinion, of course, we all do. But yours is based on what? Tougher road against another 40-year-old fighter, that he will drain to the bone, that is what you call a tougher fight? And bivol is not overpricing himself, he won the first fight, and he wants to get more money. He even suggested coming down to 168 and freaked the f*** out. The ginger is a conceived diva, he's also a cheater and should have a least two clear losses in his record. Every time he has stepped up, he has to be helped by the judges. tell me who he has beat, young and in his prime and considered an elite fighter like him, without controversy.

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          #64
          Still got all these people who want to ignore what Bivol says in favor of making up ****** agendas. How many times does the man have to demonstrate that he doesn't care about money and wants belts before you believe him? He's never even once said there was anything about money.

          The sticking point is that he gave Canelo a shot at his belt, beat Canelo up, and Canelo has nothing more to offer that Bivol is interested in unless he wants to give Bivol a shot at those 168 lb belts. Bivol wants to take away any excuses, beat him at both weights, and leave Canelo with nothing.

          And you still got jokers saying that Canelo has the leverage. Bivol's the one with the win, and since he doesn't care about a second Canelo fight unless he's got belts to win, Canelo doesn't have anything to offer. It's not a "give me more money" thing, it's a "Canelo can't risk losing to Bivol at 168" thing. Always has been.

          Since he's not getting Bivol unless he puts his own belts on the line, he's got to either face his mandatories or have Sulaiman rubber-stamp a title shot at another weight class for him.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Shadoww702

            Wow! He got ballz. I would have to take Morell IMO to win.
            I'll advise you to put money on David, either one of them, especially Morell jr. The ginger would never fight the Cuban. What fraud did with him when he was younger, an opportunity to pass the torch, he's too full of himself to do it. And he knows his limitations, facing a boxer? No, no, no. A boxer puncher with killer instincts in his prime? No way Jose, Homey don't play that. He faced a Cuban that make him look like an electrical fan throwing punches in the air, and didn't hit like DMJ, he ain't no fool, once is enough.
            Last edited by garfios; 06-16-2023, 06:06 PM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by HeadShots
              Badou Jack brings the cruiserweight title. Huge for Canelo's legacy.

              Canelo would have titles at MW, undisputed SMW, LHW and now Cruiserweight.


              Benavidez would turn into a bum overnight when Canelo knocks him out. Don't even argue this chit. This is a fact. Benavidez is a NOBODY and has beaten absolutely NOBODY​
              There's no legacy fighting old men. Don't you see it?

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                #67
                Originally posted by HeadShots


                Callum Smith has a better resume than Benavidez.

                Honestly Liam Smith has a better resume at this point.
                Why? Because they fought canelo? Ask canelo to fight him, or relinquish the belts that he won against mediocre competition, actually, none of those belt holders won the title from a real champion.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                  Fook Charla, thats a joke of a fight. Charlas never even fought at 168. Hes also OLD.
                  Im sorry to burst your bubble but their is NO ONE IMPRESSIVE at 168. Not even Benividas. He is the top dog though. The only person at 168 is Canelo, then what? He needs to go up to 175 where theirs fighters that have a pulse. Canelo has NOTHING to gain by fighting Benividas. Canelo is done period. So why not go out getting your ass whipped trying to attain a Belt in another division? Its not that hard to understand.
                  See David Morell jr. If you're not impressed with the guy with only 9 fights, then keep idolizing ginger.

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                  • garfios
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by TintaBoricua

                    The whole point of this thread is to state that Canelo is ducking XYZ. He didn't need to fight Austin Trout, he took the fight and if he had gone straight for Mayweather, people would've accused him of ducking. He didn't need to fight Erislandy Lara, he took the fight and if he hadn't, people would've accused him of ducking.

                    It's the way fickle boxing fans are. Detractors of a fighter will always run and find shelter to the hottest commodity and state that X fighter is ducking Y fighter.

                    Canelo prolonged the GGG fight? That was a pretty quick turnaround after vacating I'd say. Most people were ducking GGG, he took him on three times and in two of those looked pretty dominant. If he hadn't, there would've even more crap flung at him that there is in this thread.

                    Benavidez offers a payday, not a challenge. But to say Canelo is ducking him? Please. And after he beats him, there'll be someone else...

                    There's ALWAYS someone else.




                    He didn't need to fight trout or Lara, so, who he was supposed to fight? Hatton, Khan and joseito lopez? Again. As soon as he fought Lara he knew he couldn't get in the ring with a guy like him, brits to the rescue.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by TintaBoricua

                      Legacy fights is what you look at in retrospect, isn't it? It might not look as impressive at the time but if fighter A goes on to look better in the future that accounts for something. Trout beat the brakes off of Cotto, gave BOTH Charlo brothers all they could handle, and was having a competitive fight with Jarrett Hurd up until the stoppage. That's a quality win for Canelo, especially considering how Trout was a tricky southpaw with NO financial incentives.

                      Lara is perhaps one of the best fighters that might have trouble getting into the hall of fame because he lacks a signature win but he was never an easy opponent for anybody.

                      But sure, let them make the fight. In all honesty, I'd rather see Canelo/Benavidez instead of the rumors of Canelo/Berlanga...

                      Berlanga would get completely blown out of the water, but he signed with DAZN, so I think that's what Hearn is trying to make. That is a disgusting class "A class" mismatch.



                      Lara gave him a good lesson, ginger didn't win that fight, just because you land a couple of body shots and the rest is hitting nothing but air, or the arms, doesn't mean you win. Lara was in control of the fight for the whole 9 yards, judges to the rescue, Dave Moretti and Levi Martinez​, Martinez saw Lara winning 2 or three rounds. Roth was the only one that somehow view the fight more clearly. No rematch of course.

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