Do Canelo fans finally admit he is ducking Benavidez?

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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #41
    Originally posted by Oracle01

    Cool and David is a mandatory and number 1 ranked opponent in the division for 3 years. You can't just use legacy and tune up when it suits. David has plenty of claim. Now it looks like he will fight Charlo so im DYING to see the comical excuses you will have to justify that fight before Benavidez. Get cracking fangirl.
    Fook Charla, thats a joke of a fight. Charlas never even fought at 168. Hes also OLD.
    Im sorry to burst your bubble but their is NO ONE IMPRESSIVE at 168. Not even Benividas. He is the top dog though. The only person at 168 is Canelo, then what? He needs to go up to 175 where theirs fighters that have a pulse. Canelo has NOTHING to gain by fighting Benividas. Canelo is done period. So why not go out getting your ass whipped trying to attain a Belt in another division? Its not that hard to understand.

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      #42
      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

      Fook Charla, thats a joke of a fight. Charlas never even fought at 168. Hes also OLD.
      Im sorry to burst your bubble but their is NO ONE IMPRESSIVE at 168. Not even Benividas. He is the top dog though. The only person at 168 is Canelo, then what? He needs to go up to 175 where theirs fighters that have a pulse. Canelo has NOTHING to gain by fighting Benividas. Canelo is done period. So why not go out getting your ass whipped trying to attain a Belt in another division? Its not that hard to understand.
      The youngest ever champion at 168, 2 time WC, undefeated 27-23, who just beat up the number 2 ranked guy in the division, and ranked 1 for 3 years is not an impressive fighter? lmao. Under that standard nobody is. You must be smoking some good stuff.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Oracle01

        The youngest ever champion at 168, 2 time WC, undefeated 27-23, who just beat up the number 2 ranked guy in the division, and ranked 1 for 3 years is not an impressive fighter? lmao. Under that standard nobody is. You must be smoking some good stuff.
        Bla bla bla, heard it all before

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          #44
          Originally posted by El Más Loco

          You might be having memory loss but I'll gladly remind you of how things went. Canelo vacated a belt to prolong the first GGG fight and instead opted to fight Liam Smith and then Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Second fight he got caught with Clenbuterol in his system again prolonging the 2nd fight. 3rd fight nobody asked for.

          And was GGG the only example you could find? Thanks for proving my point.......
          The whole point of this thread is to state that Canelo is ducking XYZ. He didn't need to fight Austin Trout, he took the fight and if he had gone straight for Mayweather, people would've accused him of ducking. He didn't need to fight Erislandy Lara, he took the fight and if he hadn't, people would've accused him of ducking.

          It's the way fickle boxing fans are. Detractors of a fighter will always run and find shelter to the hottest commodity and state that X fighter is ducking Y fighter.

          Canelo prolonged the GGG fight? That was a pretty quick turnaround after vacating I'd say. Most people were ducking GGG, he took him on three times and in two of those looked pretty dominant. If he hadn't, there would've even more crap flung at him that there is in this thread.

          Benavidez offers a payday, not a challenge. But to say Canelo is ducking him? Please. And after he beats him, there'll be someone else...

          There's ALWAYS someone else.





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            #45
            Originally posted by Oracle01

            The youngest ever champion at 168, 2 time WC, undefeated 27-23, who just beat up the number 2 ranked guy in the division, and ranked 1 for 3 years is not an impressive fighter? lmao. Under that standard nobody is. You must be smoking some good stuff.
            It's good accomplishments, and you can't knock his hustle, he just isn't on the level of Canelo. If they want to make the match-up, I'm all for it. It is what it is. There's money to be made, and it's a fan friendly fight, I'm just saying that Benavidez at this point in time adds nothing for Canelo's legacy. Benavidez is young and undefeated...so?

            Lara
            Trout
            GGG 2

            Were all bigger wins than what beating Benavidez would mean (legacy wise).

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              #46
              Originally posted by TintaBoricua

              It's good accomplishments, and you can't knock his hustle, he just isn't on the level of Canelo.

              Lara
              Trout
              GGG 2

              Were all bigger wins than what beating Benavidez would mean (legacy wise).
              You should ring up Canelo and tell him Benavidez is not on his level

              btw how were lara and trout bigger legacy wins? Trout was only a regular champ and had never been a real wc. lol

              Lara, was 19-1-2 and never a wc when canelo fought him. lol

              Benavidez is a much bigger legacy fight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Oracle01

                You should ring up Canelo and tell him Benavidez is not on his level

                btw how were lara and trout bigger legacy wins? Trout was only a regular champ and had never been a real wc. lol

                Lara, was 19-1-2 and never a wc when canelo fought him. lol

                Benavidez is a much bigger legacy fight.
                Legacy fights is what you look at in retrospect, isn't it? It might not look as impressive at the time but if fighter A goes on to look better in the future that accounts for something. Trout beat the brakes off of Cotto, gave BOTH Charlo brothers all they could handle, and was having a competitive fight with Jarrett Hurd up until the stoppage. That's a quality win for Canelo, especially considering how Trout was a tricky southpaw with NO financial incentives.

                Lara is perhaps one of the best fighters that might have trouble getting into the hall of fame because he lacks a signature win but he was never an easy opponent for anybody.

                But sure, let them make the fight. In all honesty, I'd rather see Canelo/Benavidez instead of the rumors of Canelo/Berlanga...

                Berlanga would get completely blown out of the water, but he signed with DAZN, so I think that's what Hearn is trying to make. That is a disgusting class "A class" mismatch.




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                • Oracle01
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TintaBoricua

                  Legacy fights is what you look at in retrospect, isn't it? It might not look as impressive at the time but if fighter A goes on to look better in the future that accounts for something. Trout beat the brakes off of Cotto, gave BOTH Charlo brothers all they could handle, and was having a competitive fight with Jarrett Hurd up until the stoppage. That's a quality win for Canelo, especially considering how Trout was a tricky southpaw with NO financial incentives.

                  Lara is perhaps one of the best fighters that might have trouble getting into the hall of fame because he lacks a signature win but he was never an easy opponent for anybody.

                  But sure, let them make the fight. In all honesty, I'd rather see Canelo/Benavidez instead of the rumors of Canelo/Berlanga...

                  Berlanga would get completely blown out of the water, but he signed with DAZN, so I think that's what Hearn is trying to make. That is a disgusting class "A class" mismatch.
                  huh? Both lost to hype job Hurd. Trout has never been a legit WC, and Lara only has 1 legit WC by beating a journeyman for a vacant title. Benavidez has already surpassed them both.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                    Some peoples minds don’t understand fighting for LEGACY. Right now, Benny has nothing to offer but lite heavyweight and cruiser weight champions do. I don’t see Benividas challenging those guys. Do you? And he SHOULDNT. Why? Cause he’s at the beginning of being a professional fighter. He needs to fight for all the major belts. Once he does that he should move up a weight class and take those belts and so on.
                    Canelo is at the END OF HIS CAREER and you know it.
                    He should fight Benavidez because he's SUPPOSED to. David has been his mandatory for his last 3 fights, and the corrupt WBC won't order the fight because Cinnabon doesn't want to put his undisputed status on the line against someone he has a good chance of losing to. Benavidez was his mandatory before Ryder, yet here we are.

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                      #50
                      Canelo is done as elite fighter. He understood that after Bivol fight.

                      He is really only a punching bag for elite guys right now. So it won`t surprise me if he really fights the big Charlo next, the guy that hasn`t been in the ring for two years.

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