Is Loma not as good as we thought?

[buddyr]

Backs up in a straight line when under pressure (he has improved a lot on this flaw though but still costs him rounds that he was controlling before that)

Starts too slow (didn’t against Haney in fairness)

Coasts and admires his work too much.

and that pitty pat pecking amateur style.

[buddyr]

I think Loma has become so enamored with his ability to outbox opponents that he looses track of what is actually happening in the ring. He's not making sure he undoubtedly banked each round.

We've all see playground basketball players who incessantly dribble, cross opponents over, and bypass opportunities to score, which is the point of the game.

Rounds 10 and 11 are the only rounds that come to mind that he won without a doubt.

Loma fans had him ahead 8-3 and 9-2 going into the 12th. hahaha

[Boxfan83]

Why did Loma move up from 130?

[786]

No he isnt. He’s very good. Dude is an ATG amateur, maybe the best ever. That led to big hype as a pro, as it should. His skills are tremendous.

The disconnect began when some posters decided he was in the class or level of Roy and Floyd. He never was and never will be.

That led to the divisiveness and garbage whenever he fights. Every fight became a referendum on liking Loma rather than a discussion of the fight.

There was no longer any middle ground for discussion. If you didnt proclaim him an ATG that meant you hated him because he was white. That is the loop NSB is stuck in.

Loma is a damn good boxer. He should imo make the HOF as he was a top p4p boxer for years, occupying the top spot for a while.

He isnt an ATG, isnt the best of his era, is no way, shape or form on the level of Roy or Floyd. Imo he isnt on Manny’s level either.

Don’t see why that isnt ok that he is beneath them.

Well said.

[Willow The Wisp]

People were talking about him like the second coming of Christ.

Can you imagine a prime Manny Pacquiao getting beaten by Teofimo Lopez? He’d batter him and stop him. It wouldn’t be competitive.

He’s got 3 losses now in 20 fights.

Perhaps he’s not quite as elite as we initially thought?

It's true. Highly skilled, a favorite against almost anyone near his weight, a star in the sport. Yes. Hall-of-fame candidate? No.

[ELPacman]

Loma is not overrated. Him taking a loss just overhyped the hate the haters already had against him. He was amazing in his prime, is clearly out of it at 35. All taken in, he gave a performance against a 24yr old that was bigger than him and supposed to be "talented" that many think he beat. That's highly impressive, or Haney just sucks that much. Whichever way you want to cut it.

[Dakuwaqa]

Loma is not overrated. Him taking a loss just overhyped the hate the haters already had against him. He was amazing in his prime, is clearly out of it at 35. All taken in, he gave a performance against a 24yr old that was bigger than him and supposed to be "talented" that many think he beat. That's highly impressive, or Haney just sucks that much. Whichever way you want to cut it.

Bigger doesn’t mean **** when you aren’t that great to begin with.

Pacman was destroying guys that ‘were bigger than him’

[youbeight]

You have got to be the dumbest mother****er on this forum. Aren't you the guy that was talking about having David Benevidez deep fake gay ****?

you lost a bet. delete your account lol

[joseph5620]

He's better than we thought

He's faaar out of his prime and just beat a prime top fighter

That's funny because before the Lomachenko fight Haney was called overhyped, pillow fist, a runner, a hugger, but now he's a "prime top fighter".

Lomachenko lost to Haney. Claiming otherwise doesn't change the outcome.

[joseph5620]

Loma has fought better fighters in 20 fights than almost everyone today will in their whole careers. He should have never went past 130 lbs, he wouldn't have lost another fight until Shakur came along to challenge him but he went up and fought much bigger guys and ultimately it was too much for him. He did just arguably beat a 24 year old that people slobber all over for some reason. Maybe we should be asking if Haney is not as good as we thought?

Haney has never been hyped as much as Lomachenko. I don't recall anyone claiming Haney was better than Mayweather, Leonard, or Muhammad Ali.