Is Loma not as good as we thought?

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  • SunDiego-
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    #51
    He has a unique style that’s for sure but most definitely was hyped to no end by the media and he never really delivered on that hype. He looked sensational beating the Linares, Campbells of the world but the minute he stepped up one more level of competition he started to look ordinary. Haney nor Lopez were P4P fighters when he fought them if anything both young fighter’s decided to risk it all and challenge the more experienced fighter which is something people “conveniently” forget. You can still find threads when he faced Lopez and how he was going to dominate him and potentially knock him out but that never happened and they had nothing but excuses afterwards. I rate him about half a level below the Marquez, Morales, Barreras of the boxing world nothing close to a Mayweather, Pacquiao or Jones level fighter

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    • Malvado
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      #52
      Still think Loma is one of the best boxers around, but he is physically declining and doesn't belong at lightweight despite that most of his accolades during his professional career is at 135. I think he has a solid resume having a lot of consistent wins over ranked fighters with dominant performances.

      But the level of opposition is just good not great, ATGs that belong at the division would have toyed with them, Linares whom I consider his biggest win at lightweight due to his athletic gifts and having a solid hot streak against Crolla, Campbell and Gesta, already showed to have a glass chin as was knocked down multiple times and stopped by Salgado, DeMarco, Thompson, and Cano. It shows how difficult it be to beat Jorge if he didn't have that chin as a hindrance, but it also demonstrates that Vasily's power did not translate that well when he moved up.




      Loma is also easily damageable despite his defensive skills in the aftermaths of most fights. Campbell and Haney who are feather fisted had hurt him to the body in multiple occasions.

      So I want to say is that he is one of the most skilled fighters out there, but Loma is plagued with weaknesses that aren't fixable due to contending at a division he shouldn't fighting in the first place.
      Last edited by Malvado; 05-25-2023, 09:01 PM.

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      • BoZz
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        #53
        I always said it, he was a good amateur and that's it, he lost to Salido then uncle Bob started fixing fights in his favor..got whooped by teofimo and schooled by a kid in Haney. His fan boys are delusional just like ggg bandwagoners.

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        • sicko
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          #54
          Excellent Fighter but he was never "BETTER THAN..." Floyd, Ali, Pacquiao and whoever TF Else Arum tried to Proclaim him as being better than

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          • sargo
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            #55
            Not at the level of Pacquiao but ATG still.

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            • buddyr
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              #56
              Originally posted by sargo
              Not at the level of Pacquiao but ATG still.
              all time great at 17-3?

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              • HeadShots
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                #57
                he like that beijing dude had a style for amateurs but didn't translate well into pros. korobov too

                speed matters most in amateur competition.



                but frame, reach and power matter more in pros.



                these feather dusters come to the pros and get outhustled. the guys who do well with an amateur style like Usyk, Beter and GGG all have power and size.

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                • PinkGod
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  he like that beijing dude had a style for amateurs but didn't translate well into pros. korobov too

                  speed matters most in amateur competition.



                  but frame, reach and power matter more in pros.



                  these feather dusters come to the pros and get outhustled. the guys who do well with an amateur style like Usyk, Beter and GGG all have power and size.
                  Makes me kinda worry a little about Andy Cruz...

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                  • Ghost Jab
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                    #59
                    He is better than some think

                    He is not as good as some think

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #60
                      I’ve been harsh on Loma since he started and was streamlined to a world title fight in front of every other deserving fighter. He turned out to be better than I thought. If Loma makes weight like some of these other fighters make weight, then he would be a career Super Featherweight. If anything, he has overachieved.

                      Pacquiao? Yeah Pac would KO Lopez. Pac also weighed 147lbs on fight night of his 130-135 fights. He was short, yeah, but Pac wasn’t a small guy. Pac was a heavy fighter in the ring.

                      In fact, vs Morales at 130, the shorter Pacquiao weighed 144lbs vs Morales 139lbs.

                      At 135 vs David Diaz, Pac weighed just 1lb less than Diaz, 147 vs 148.

                      So yeah, Pacquiao would be better than Loma at 135, because Pac was not a small guy at the weight. He was about the same size as the average LW.

                      When he got to 147 was when he was finally only rehydrating 2-4lbs, because there he was actually a small WW.

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