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  • Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
    Hahaha if he beats Cotto and doesnt fight Mayweather...then he is ducking him without a doubt. They know Mayweather will make Pac look silly and average. But the question is are they willing to risk that for a HUGE payday? I say why not...Pac is already a HOF fighter..but this is a fight that BOTH of them need to define their respective legacy's. If Mayweather retires without fighting Pac then he is ducking him. This fight needs to happen to get this board back to Normal....lol
    Mayweather already retired without fighting the Welter Weights so Manny can do what ever he likes. Fighters avoided by Mayweather after retiring Clottey, Berto, Quintana, Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito and the rematch with De La hoya.

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    • Originally posted by Shattered Jaw View Post
      Fair play.

      If he beats Cotto then I would have no problem with the Pac man retiring.

      He's fighting above his weight even at 145 so has nothing left to prove IMO.
      co sign. he's already doing the impossible.

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      • Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
        Hahaha if he beats Cotto and doesnt fight Mayweather...then he is ducking him without a doubt. They know Mayweather will make Pac look silly and average. But the question is are they willing to risk that for a HUGE payday? I say why not...Pac is already a HOF fighter..but this is a fight that BOTH of them need to define their respective legacy's. If Mayweather retires without fighting Pac then he is ducking him. This fight needs to happen to get this board back to Normal....lol
        I disagree, I'd have to say Mayweather needs to fight at LEAST a top 10 WW in order to define his legacy, because up until he's a ***** that cherry picks his fights. When a guy who 2 years ago was fighting at 130 is fighting the best WW in the world before Mayweather does, there is NOTHING, NOTHING you can say that will not make Mayweather exactly what he is.

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        • Don't blame PAC. Why fight a fight you know you will get your ass handed too you.

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            This is a blatant duck. Roach was talking real greasy about
            Floyd before, about how Pac would beat Floyd and Floyd is boring
            and cant draw big numbers AND now that Floyd spanked JMM
            and did 1MIL in Pay Per view, Roach is singing another tune.
            Anyways, Pac aint even going to get past Cotto anyway Im
            starting to believe.
            Yeah. Wasn't he saying FMJ would be PAC's easiest fight? Now all of a sudden after he made JMM look like a high priced sparring partner everything is different now. Right now the PPV drawing power is 3-0 in common opponents.

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            • Originally posted by COACH WEBB View Post
              if you are not first you are last
              then floyd's last?

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              • Originally posted by handler000 View Post
                Yeah. Wasn't he saying FMJ would be PAC's easiest fight? Now all of a sudden after he made JMM look like a high priced sparring partner everything is different now. Right now the PPV drawing power is 3-0 in common opponents.
                That is pretty contradicting I'll have to admit. But the point I want to make is it's double standards to accuse Pacquiao of ducking Floyd and give Floyd a pass for brushing off Shane's challenge regardless of how much money each guy brings to the table.

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                • i dont know why all this talk is going on about mayweather v pacquiao, cotto is gonna whoop pacquiao.

                  pac gets ko'd by cotto and then the WW's can finally start fighting eachother again.

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                  • Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
                    i still think pacman is overrated,his power is overrated,and cotto will ko him out silly,cotto is not oscar or overrated hatton,i've said this all along and cotto said it too,,,he'll send manny back to 140,this fight with cotto is a mismatch,cotto is just too big,natural welter
                    Too bad no one else thinks that besides you. Let me guess, you knew without a doubt Delaquitter was going to KO Pac (Never happened), you also knew that Hatton would be too much and too strong for Pac (The only real thing Hatton was better at Pac was getting hit).

                    Now you jumping on Cotto's wagon. Sure Cotto is a legitimate opponent, but let me tell you this, in order for Cotto to be effective he has to wear his opponents down to the body. You think Pac is gonna stand in front of Cotto all night the way Clottey did.

                    Expect Pac to dance circles around Cotto, in and out side to side. I foresee the same strategy Pac used against Delaquitter, hit and dont be hit.

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                    • Cotto is too slow for Pacquiao...

                      I see Manny winning a unanimous decision due to knockdowns of Cotto...

                      Cotto may no more than 5 rounds...

                      But it will not be enough...

                      It's going to be target practice..

                      Cotto's gonna have another cut above his eye ...

                      Blood will be everywhere...

                      There will be a head butt that will cut Pacquiao ...

                      that might give Manny a challenge ....

                      this might be another Morales vs Pacquiao fight 1...

                      Speed is kills in boxing ...

                      Pacquiao is a killer..

                      He is next level ...

                      He is a beast ...

                      He is sick in skills ...

                      His left is insane and will not be seen ...

                      Cotto does not move his head ...

                      He might move his feet ...

                      But Pacquiao will chase him down wisely using feints and quick head movements ....

                      And Cotto will not see it ...

                      There will be a lot of knockdowns ....

                      And Pacman is going to give credit to Cotto for being able to get up
                      6 times ...

                      The ref might stop the fight ...

                      How long did it take Cotto to KO Judah ...

                      As I can remember Judah won some rounds but the
                      lack of stamina kicked in....or maybe Cotto wore him down ...

                      but Pacquiao is not stop every single round...
                      attack attack attck

                      Pacquiao has boxing skills also ...

                      Cotto either fights real real close on the inside ...or he is trying to box from the distance ...

                      Pacquiao will force proper distance if Cotto tries to get too close ...and
                      damn that speedy left to Cotto's face will be non stop ...

                      if Cotto tries to box Pacman will cut off the ring and attack the body and throw hooks and uppercuts too the face ...

                      down goes Cotto .. down goes Cotto

                      just look at the training ....

                      Cotto trains slow ...

                      he is gonna fight slow ...

                      well he is faster than me...

                      and some other boxers...

                      but against Pacquiao or Mayweather ...

                      TOO SLOW COTTO

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