Pacquiao Could Retire Without Mayweather, Says Roach

[hugh grant]

PBF keeps saying he dont need to call people out as if he is some cool dude or something. Or not calling people out is somewhat or somehow different or cool.
Well continue to not call Pac out, and Pac wont call you out as well. Two can play that game. Its just that Pac has a better resume and he can retire without you. You need Pac more than he needs you. If PBF had a better resume then pac would need PBF. Like a drug addict needs his fix.

[GRUSTLER]

Floyd is trying to make sure of that. Mosley will just have to go on and beat Berto without it being a unification fight.

Shane Mosley could of had Floyd if he would have just went
on to fight after Margarito atleast 1 or 2 times win and unify
titles. He could of had a fight with Berto, took his title, fought
Clottey and beat him, OR, just went to NY and fought Cotto again
but this time make sure the judges/referee situation was tended to.
Mosley is just not a good buisness man. He is a worker not a boss.
I think Floyd is right when he said, Mosley is just looking for one last
big payday because if he wasnt, then he would of kept fighting after
that beautiful win over Margarito strenghtening his position amongst
the mega fights. Mosley problem has always been his buisness
decisions and his ego.

[Guest]

Shane Mosley could of had Floyd if he would have just went
on to fight after Margarito atleast 1 or 2 times win and unify
titles. He could of had a fight with Berto, took his title, fought
Clottey and beat him, OR, just went to NY and fought Cotto again
but this time make sure the judges/referee situation was tended to.
Mosley is just not a good buisness man. He is a worker not a boss.
I think Floyd is right when he said, Mosley is just looking for one last
big payday because if he wasnt, then he would of kept fighting after
that beautiful win over Margarito strenghtening his position amongst
the mega fights. Mosley problem has always been his buisness
decisions and his ego.

So Mosley made a bad choice before moving up to fight DLH rather than Mayweather at 135?

Vargas was a bad choice?
Those fights did good numbers.

How would him fighting Berto or Clottey mean anything to Floyd, Floyd was retired.
He beat the man at welter at the time, Margarito. Why does Mosley have to go backwards and fight Berto or Clottey?

Why can't him and Floyd just get it on?

This **** has been simmering for 11 years now.

[Iceta]

Shane Mosley could of had Floyd if he would have just went
on to fight after Margarito atleast 1 or 2 times win and unify
titles. He could of had a fight with Berto, took his title, fought
Clottey and beat him, OR, just went to NY and fought Cotto again
but this time make sure the judges/referee situation was tended to.
Mosley is just not a good buisness man. He is a worker not a boss.
I think Floyd is right when he said, Mosley is just looking for one last
big payday because if he wasnt, then he would of kept fighting after
that beautiful win over Margarito strenghtening his position amongst
the mega fights. Mosley problem has always been his buisness
decisions and his ego.

So are you saying you think it is okay for Mayweather to follow suit? That is pretty much what he is getting ready to do and his fans like yourself will give him a pass for it. I guarantee you that Pacquiao and Cotto won't piss on Floyd's teeth if his gums catch on fire, and I'll laugh my ass off if he gets hung out to dry. I predict we'll see a Cotto-Mosley rematch before Mayweather gets the balls to fight Mosley. And what is he going to do for not paying his taxes?

[GRUSTLER]

So Mosley made a bad choice before moving up to fight DLH rather than Mayweather at 135?

Vargas was a bad choice?
Those fights did good numbers.

How would him fighting Berto or Clottey mean anything to Floyd, Floyd was retired.
He beat the man at welter at the time, Margarito. Why does Mosley have to go backwards and fight Berto or Clottey?

Why can't him and Floyd just get it on?

This **** has been simmering for 11 years now.

Mosley bad decisions have included. Hiring his wife
as his manager? DUMB MOVE! Not capatilizing off
of the Margarito win? DUMB MOVE! Chasing Pac
and PBF for almost a year after he knew he wasnt
getting the fight? DUMB MOVE! Suse he beat Margarito
but clearly that wasnt enough. Look what Cotto did?
Beat Mosley, got beat by Margarito but then fought
and beat Clottey. Cotto didnt stop fighting once he
lost, he kept going! Mosley totally dominated Margarito
and didnt capatilize on it by continuing with at least
another big win, giving him some more leverage. Mosley
should be the man to beat but he is not and thats sad
because he been in the game longer.

[Guest]

So are you saying you think it is okay for Mayweather to follow suit? That is pretty much what he is getting ready to do and his fans like yourself will give him a pass for it. I guarantee you that Pacquiao and Cotto won't piss on Floyd's teeth if his gums catch on fire, and I'll laugh my ass off if he gets hung out to dry. I predict we'll see a Cotto-Mosley rematch before Mayweather gets the balls to fight Mosley. And what is he going to do for not paying his taxes?

Mosley bad decisions have included. Hiring his wife
as his manager? DUMB MOVE! Not capatilizing off
of the Margarito win? DUMB MOVE! Chasing Pac
and PBF for almost a year after he knew he wasnt
getting the fight? DUMB MOVE! Suse he beat Margarito
but clearly that wasnt enough. Look what Cotto did?
Beat Mosley, got beat by Margarito but then fought
and beat Clottey. Cotto didnt stop fighting once he
lost, he kept going! Mosley totally dominated Margarito
and didnt capatilize on it by continuing with at least
another big win, giving him some more leverage. Mosley
should be the man to beat but he is not and thats sad
because he been in the game longer.

Floyd made ****ty business decisions as well.
Has 1 fight in 2004, against Chop-Chop.

He's already champ then he waits 8 months to fight Henry Bruseles, the world beater.

Floyd had long periods of inactivity as well since 2004.

I agree about Cotto. For all his flaws, he'll fight anyone.

Can't say that about some other guys.

[GRUSTLER]

So are you saying you think it is okay for Mayweather to follow suit? That is pretty much what he is getting ready to do and his fans like yourself will give him a pass for it. I guarantee you that Pacquiao and Cotto won't piss on Floyd's teeth if his gums catch on fire, and I'll laugh my ass off if he gets hung out to dry. I predict we'll see a Cotto-Mosley rematch before Mayweather gets the balls to fight Mosley. And what is he going to do for not paying his taxes?

I want Floyd to fight Mosley. Im not debating that at all.
Im just critiquing Mosley dumb decisions up until now.
Pac and or Cotto have to fight Floyd you know why?
Because he did 1MILLION PPV buys! He is making himself
and whoever he fights BIG MONEY! No way Arum keeps
both Cotto/Pac away from Floyd because all these dudes
are too greedy and Floyd just reestablished himself as
being a big boxing draw like it or not.

[h2k]

Pacquiao could retire even without fighting dela hoya, hatton and cotto, he's already fighting above of his weight class he shouldn't have a business fighting dela hoya, hatton or cotto he's just too small from them he belong to the 135lbs.

[h2k]

Option1.If Pacquiao beats Cotto...He should fight Mosley. IF he beats Mosley he becomes the #1 WW in the world [that come from 106lbs] and hes still the #1p4p in the world.... Why fight Mayweather lol...who the hell is he and what does he have that Manny dont lol...

Option2 If Manny beats Cotto than some could argue that {**** the raitings} Cotto was the best WW. He has a great resume,even better than Floyds when it comes to quality of opposition. Also he even beat the #1 guy SSM so why fight Mosley! Again why fight Floyd what does he have that Manny dont.

Manny has money. Dont need Floyd to have money. Floyd needs money and needs Manny to do it. Id love Manny to do , option 1 , and retire and leave Floyd on dry street and saying ,"who fighting leftover now *****"!

I AGREE IN EVERYTHING YOU SAY.

[Guest]

I want Floyd to fight Mosley. Im not debating that at all.
Im just critiquing Mosley dumb decisions up until now.
Pac and or Cotto have to fight Floyd you know why?
Because he did 1MILLION PPV buys! He is making himself
and whoever he fights BIG MONEY! No way Arum keeps
both Cotto/Pac away from Floyd because all these dudes
are too greedy and Floyd just reestablished himself as
being a big boxing draw like it or not.

I know your down with the fight.

But owing the IRS isn't exactly a smart business decision either.

And at any rate, who cares what bad decisions either guy made.

I don't understand what more Mosley has to do to secure a fight.
Fight lesser people? He has a history of fighting the best, why drop down to fight an up and comer Berto or someone who never wins the big one, Clottey.

I am down with May- Cotto/PAC winner or Mosley, preferably Mosley.