Pacquiao Could Retire Without Mayweather, Says Roach

[fightingfigs]

Guys... look at this...

A Mayweather fan accusing another fighter of ducking.

If he beats Cotto he really doesnt have anything to prove. Miguel Cotto is legitimately the best Welterweight out there.

[tesla_power]

It shocks me to think a guy who has fought DLH(2X) when he was good , Wright, Forrest, Collazo, Cotto, Margarito, and to a lesser extent Estrada, Vargas, Antonio Diaz, Mayorga and was a complete killer at lightweight has no leverage.

Wtf man?

I would think I was pretty damn good after looking at my resume after that.

To be fair though, I believe you referring to the times when he is going after very marketable names.
DLH -- he will always be at the B side of the equation simply because it's dlh
PAC -- currently riding the popularity wave in the US, plus consensus P4P number 1.
PBF -- For a man who did a 1M PPV in a ****ty economy, it is not even debatable who would get the lion's share.

Right now, he will be the rightful draw against any other except pac/pbf and possible cotto.

IMO, he did not have enough momentum building up for him. The current win streak of both pac/pbf garnered huge interest from the public. Mosley lost to Forrest prior the dlh fight, losing the winky after, then after a name building 5 consecutive wins, he lost to cotto. I like Mosley but he lost just when things is going well for him. I hope he gets active, no way will reach the status of the other boxing superstar by being this inactive and dwelling of past wins (this case the margarito win).

[BoxingScribe]

Manny should retire. Then Floyd would have no more quality lightweights to fight. Then he would be looking to the featherweight division.

[COACH WEBB]

Manny should retire. Then Floyd would have no more quality lightweights to fight. Then he would be looking to the featherweight division.

yea..because it is WELL documented all he fights are small guys... but not too long ago, just about EVERYONE was screaming for Manny-Floyd fight when he was retired..now he's back in the game and looking forward to that fight (if Manny wins of course), now Manny shouldn't fight him??? its funny how fast people change on here.

[We want Floyd]

This seems like blatant ducking. Mayweather was #1, and Pac only got to that slot by FMJ retiring. May comes back, and many people have restored Floyd to the #1 spot.

To prove he is #1, Pacquiao would have to beat Mayweather. Wins over Diaz/Delahoya/Hatton are not ATG-ish. And Roach himself has said that Cotto is weathered.

Haha, now you're grasping at straws.

What kind of an econ guy are you? Nothing in PAC's past suggest he ducks multi-million $$$ pay days!

What did you say again? as if there's something ATG-ish about Wolf Ticket's 40-0 record, lmao. MAB and EM alone are head and shoulders above everyone in Wolf Ticket's resume.

You're obviously having selective memory loss here, so there's nothing ATG-ish about beating MAB 2x, EM 2x, and Juanita . PAC had to move up to beat the **** out of DLH and Hatton while your guy came back bigger than ever and beat a guy who was about 2x smaller than he was, pathetic!

[MakeDamnSure]

Floyd is blatantly using the WW division to beat up Featherweights and Lightweights.

[BoxingScribe]

yea..because it is WELL documented all he fights are small guys... but not too long ago, just about EVERYONE was screaming for Manny-Floyd fight when he was retired..now he's back in the game and looking forward to that fight (if Manny wins of course), now Manny shouldn't fight him??? its funny how fast people change on here.

Well I wasn't one of them. I could care less about Fraud Gayweather. I see things a LOT different than your average Mayweather hater. I look at stats and facts. Like out of 40 fighters, Mayweather has been bigger than 35. And you can't count Corrales because he was only taller but had a shorter reach. Mayweather has been TALLER and had a longer reach than 35 of his 40 opponents. Thats not by design you don't think? I ONLY want to see Mayweather fight a viable opponent at 147. I could give a **** less about a fight with Manny. It proves NOTHING if he wins besides he beat a smaller fighter he SHOULD have beaten. His legacy at 140 was garbage with the only champ he chose to face was Gatti who was AWARDED a belt. And he fought Baldomir at 147. That was the ONLY true welterweight he faced. Mitchell was a ballooned 140 shot fighter and so was Zab who was coming off a loss to Baldomir. I want to see him fight Shane. That's the only way he can prove to me he is as great as he says he is. His legacy he left at 135. He aint been **** since then.

[COACH WEBB]

Floyd is blatantly using the WW division to beat up Featherweights and Lightweights.

yea..because it is WELL documented all he fights are small guys

[BoxingScribe]

yea..because it is WELL documented all he fights are small guys

35 outta 40

[handler000]

he clearly doesnt want manny or any of his other fighters to stay in the ring for too long and suffer the damage he did

Difference is PAC can fight; Roach was a punching bag.