I don’t understand the term “weight bully”.

[Cypocryphy]

Hedging? I never made a prediction you lying dumbass LOL. Go find where I made a prediction on this fight. When you can't find it you'll be exposed as a liar.

I don't think you're right at all. Are you too dumb to understand what 50/50 means? It means that either fighter can win. You just guaranteed a Lomachenko victory. That's not the same thing at all. Haney has a good chance of winning and vice versa. It's a competitive fight.


How did your Haney-Kambosos prediction turn out for you?


"Kambosos is faster with better timing " "Weight cut will make Haney sluggish" "Don't be surprised if George breaks Haney down and drops him"

Rarely do I encounter someone who argues in such bad faith as you. Either that or you're actually are as ****** as I think you are. And yes, I said those things, but I did believe that that weight cut was going to adversely affect Devin, making him slower, sluggish. I also didn't think he'd get a fair shake in Australia. He proved me wrong, and I gave him credit for hugging his way to victory. But just because I was wrong about that fight doesn't mean I'll be wrong about this one.

[joseph5620]

Rarely do I encounter someone who argues in such bad faith as you. Either that or you're actually are as ****** as I think you are. And yes, I said those things, but I did believe that that weight cut was going to adversely affect Devin, making him slower, sluggish. I also didn't think he'd get a fair shake in Australia. He proved me wrong, and I gave him credit for hugging his way to victory. But just because I was wrong about that fight doesn't mean I'll be wrong about this one.

But it won't against Lomachenko lol? That right there shows how disingenuous and dishonest you are. His weight cut is an advantage against Lomachenko but a weakness against Kambosos? So which is it?

You didn't give Haney credit at all. Just another example that you're a liar. I'm still waiting for you to find where I made a prediction for this fight. You're not getting away with that lie lol.


You guaranteed a Lomachenko victory. I said 50/50. So you're the one that is going to be humiliated if Lomachenko loses.


Your analysis and prediction for Haney-Kambosos was terrible and way off. You said nothing about him getting a fair shake. You predicted Haney would legitimately lose. Don't switch the narrative now. I can easily expose you on that too.

[El Más Loco]

Bill Haney confirms he hydrates 20-24 lbs fight night. He's never fought anyone bigger than him or bigger. Hearns at least moved up a ton of weight classes and regularly bigger than him.

Haney is also under 25...........

[El Más Loco]

People only use that excuse once they think their favortie fighter might lose to another fighter that "looks" taller, wider, with more reach, etc etc.

[Roadblock]

I'm not missing the point YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. Not me. YOU. Here you are talking about whether the fighter making weight is at risk for injury. I never mentioned any such thing. I'm talking about the fighter who has to fight the guy making weight and rehydrating 20 plus pounds. That's whose safety is in question. Not the guy making weight; the guy fighting the guy striking himself and then blowing back up in weight.

As I said before, there are examples of guys being seriously hurt from weight bullies. You also see fights were there will always be an asterisk because people will wonder: Did he just beat him because he weighed so much more than him? Was it because he just didn't have the skill to compete, so he relied on his size and weight?

But the bottom line is that the safety of the boxers who make weight and rehydrate normally is in danger from the boxers who have found loop holes in the rules to gain an advantage. When these rules were made, we didn't have the means we have now to shrink and rehydrate. It has become very sophisticated. On top of that, it's hard to prove someone is cheating through IV use, and to be honest, if you're rehydrating more than 12 pounds in a 24 hour period, I presume that fluids are being taken in intravenously based on the medical literature on the subject.

Where am I talking about a fighters risk of injury for making weight, I don't say anything of the kind, Im saying if yo can make the weight within the rules and you end up a large fighter at the weight then good for them, if you want to call him a weight bully that's just a slur term for a guy that fights at the high end of his division, many others do the same all career, I don't see anything wrong its within the rules.

[War Room]

I'm not missing the point YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. Not me. YOU.

Wooaa, what is wrong with you my guy?

[Cypocryphy]

Where am I talking about a fighters risk of injury for making weight, I don't say anything of the kind, Im saying if yo can make the weight within the rules and you end up a large fighter at the weight then good for them, if you want to call him a weight bully that's just a slur term for a guy that fights at the high end of his division, many others do the same all career, I don't see anything wrong its within the rules.

I must have misread what you said or confused your post with someone else's. My bad. I thought you had made the argument that 24 hour weigh-ins is for the fighters safety, that it was for Devin's safety to be able to rehydrate.

I get what you're saying, but this is a phenomenon that occurred with the rule change, and it circumvents weight classes. I get what you're saying, but I still don't agree.

[Roadblock]

I must have misread what you said or confused your post with someone else's. My bad. I thought you had made the argument that 24 hour weigh-ins is for the fighters safety, that it was for Devin's safety to be able to rehydrate.

I get what you're saying, but this is a phenomenon that occurred with the rule change, and it circumvents weight classes. I get what you're saying, but I still don't agree.

Ah no worries its easy to get posts mixed up in here, all good.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

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So you're comparing Hearns, who weighed in the same day of a fight, to a guy who has 24 hours or more to rehydrated? lmao Are you really asking this? Okay guy

You seem very emotional about this man.

Hearns like Haney had several physical advantages fighting at 147/154 but like Haney always made the weight so there was no issue.

What you fail to understand is there is no height limit, no reach limit, no size limit, there’s only a weight limit. So if a fighter makes the weight, what exactly is he doing wrong?

[Cypocryphy]

You seem very emotional about this man.

Hearns like Haney had several physical advantages fighting at 147/154 but like Haney always made the weight so there was no issue.

What you fail to understand is there is no height limit, no reach limit, no size limit, there’s only a weight limit. So if a fighter makes the weight, what exactly is he doing wrong?

I'm just playing around. But at the same time, this is a disingenuous argument. I'm going to try to explain this as clearly and simply as possible. This is not about how long your arms are. It's not. Because how longer your arms are is not going to create a significant advantage over the opponent in the sense that it's putting the opponent at greater risk of harm. Being taller than your opponent is not going to put that opponent at a greater risk of harm. However, having a significant weight advantage does put your opponent at a greater risk of harm. Where having a greater reach can be made into a disadvantage, being bigger than your opponent cannot be made into a disadvantage. If that were the case, then weight classes would be irrelevant. If that were the case, then we wouldn't have the rehydration clauses. (And when I say "bigger," I'm talking about mass.)

You keep going back to reach and height when we're talking about weight class. We are talking about "rehydrating" to a weight that is well outside of the weight class, and you are bringing up a guy that when he finally stepped in the ring, weighed only three percent more than what he weighed on the scales. It's completely irrelevant, and that is why I laughed at your post.