"Too small" in relation to current fighters in a respective weight-class. Loma is a former FW, so of course there will be fighters at LW who are naturally bigger than him. That's bound to happen when a fighter has campaigned at multiple weights. At some point, the size difference starts to become a factor. Some of the current LWs could eventually become 140-147lbers. Isaac Cruz is shorter than Loma, but Cruz started his career as a LW. JoJo Diaz is of comparable size, as he started his career at 122. JoJo lost to Haney, but he was having periodic success. Personally, I don't believe is Loma is "too small" to defeat Haney because Loma has been fighting bigger opposition almost every time. Haney's size is simply one attribute that Loma will have to solve if he's going to win.
I don’t understand the term “weight bully”.
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I have no idea about that or what it is. The fact that this is important to you speaks for itself about you LOLComment
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You have no idea about math? People don't like you, people like me. People like me because I post top shelf content and I know what I'm talking about.
Isn't it blunt o'clock Dunny?Comment
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I understand it well. It's a term used by fans when their favorite fighters get their azzes whipped or are about to get their azzez whipped. They then start creating a narrative that a particular fighter is walking around 75 lbs above their weight class.. You should have been on the boxing forums back in 2004 when Tarver knocked out Jones. Roy's fans were claiming it was unfair because Tarver walks around at 250 and had the power of Tyson and Lennox Lewis. I'm seriously not exaggerating.Comment
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That isn't what I said. You apparently lack reading comprehension.
All anyone has to do is look up your post history and how you literally collect hundreds of post from members here and repost them to make a point. You even document the times. That's serious mental illness
This site is your life. I'll leave it at that.
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All I do? I work every day and long hours. I'm off today, YDKSAM.
That's isn't what I said. You apparently lack reading comprehension.
All anyone has to do is look up your post history and how you literally collect hundreds of post from members here and repost them to make a point. You even document the times. That's serious mental illness
This site is your life. I'll leave it at that.
You got owned, time for a yawn or is it blunt o'clock yet?Comment
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No. I'll tell you what's going to happen. Loma is going to beat Devin, and then when I come back here and post: "Loma just kicked Devin 'Huggies' Haney's ass, despite his being a weight bully and blowing up to a middleweight. Despite Haney having a decade of youth on his side, he lost to that little, old man." And once I post that, you're not going to make a peep.I understand it well. It's a term used by fans when their favorite fighters get their azzes whipped or are about to get their azzez whipped. They then start creating a narrative that a particular fighter is walking around 75 lbs above their weight class.. You should have been on the boxing forums back in 2004 when Tarver knocked out Jones. Roy's fans were claiming it was unfair because Tarver walks around at 250 and had the power of Tyson and Lennox Lewis. I'm seriously not exaggerating.
You and my stalker, joseph5620 , are going to be mighty quiet for awhile. That's basically what's going to happen.Last edited by Cypocryphy; 04-10-2023, 08:12 PM.Comment
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weight classes exist for a reason, to eliminate weight as a factor in a fight, and to have skill, athleticism, toughness, etc dictate who wins or loses. Switching from same-day weigh-ins was a HUGE mistake, and opened the door for fighters to manipulate weight and essentially fight guys much smaller than them. Yes, its "legal". But its still weak as hell. It was weak when Gatti did it, and its just as weak when Haney does it.
Flip Homansky got it wrong.
If most of your camp is focused on cutting weight, then you should move up. Giving you more time to rehydrate after the weigh in is simply wrong. Fight in your proper weight class, and you wont need a day and a half to rehydrate.Last edited by OnePunch; 04-10-2023, 08:19 PM.Comment
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Its an after the fact terminology used by fans to deflate a fighter, the guy is big and can make a light weight and so uses that to his advantage, both fighters have the same weight rules, hating fans just like to look for anything that will take away from a guy they don't like.Seeing it get thrown around a lot at the moment. Devin Haney is being used as an example regularly.
What I don’t understand though is Devin Haney has never missed weight. So what’s the issue? Cause he’s naturally a big guy for the weight?
Does that mean Tommy Hearns was a “weight bully”?
I just don’t understand the logic behind that terminology whatsoever.Comment
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That's not true at all. People are so intellectually disingenuous here. It's unreal. This is not some subjective assessment here. This is not about favoritism. It's not about discrimination. It's about calling it as it is. I was on here railing on Zurdo for the same exact reason.
Its an after the fact terminology used by fans to deflate a fighter, the guy is big and can make a light weight and so uses that to his advantage, both fighters have the same weight rules, hating fans just like to look for anything that will take away from a guy they don't like.
Before this day-before weigh-in bull****, fighters were weighing in on the same day. It made fights (1) safer and (2) more competitive. I mean, really, does no one but a few people in this thread understand weight classes? Right now, it seems to me that from RJJ-94-02=GOAT to Joseph5620 don't understand why we even have weight classes because, if they did, this thread wouldn't even exist nor would the arguments for validating Haney's 24 pound rehydration.
Weight classes in boxing allow for fighters to put their skills and fighting instincts against evenly matched opponents. Heavier fighters have a greater advantage with power and the ability to absorb punishment over lighter combatants.
Given the violent nature of boxing, weight classes are important to ensure that smaller fighters are protected from being unnecessarily injured by larger opponents. Many smaller fighters might feel they have the skills that could see them beat a larger fighter but for their safety they may not ever get the opportunity.OnePunch mentioned Gatti vs Gamache because that is a perfect example of what goes wrong when fighters fight an opponent who's weight bullying. It has nothing to do with playing favorites but everything to do with having a sport where competetors are evenly matched for the enjoyment of others and for the safety of the fighters in the ring. As I have said before, the difference in weight at this level is huge, and a fighter who comes in heavier will have the ability to (1) dish out more punishment and (2) take more punishment. So in an effort to make things as safe as possible, as well as evenly matched as possible, we have weight classes.
Fighters in the past were going out of their way to make weight on the same day of the fight to their detriment, so in order to prevent deaths and injury to fighters, the rules were amended to allow for a 24 period of rehydration. This was clearly the wrong approach. It would have been better to put in measures to force fighters struggling to make weight into the next weight class. Maybe one day this mistake will be fixed.
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