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  • #51
    Ngannou would be ****** to pimp himself to Wilder or Fury 1st. Both will KO him.

    Ngannou should take the Jake Paul route. Ngannou could box some NFL or NBA player and build up hype from Casuals and MMA fans. After Floyd McGregor most know a Boxer wins in a boxing match and I doubt either Fury or Wilder honor the MMA match.
    Last edited by Boxfan83; 03-01-2023, 10:53 AM.

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    • #52
      It seems that Wilder is doing all he can to avoid fighting any other top 10 that isn't named Fury. Retire already dude you are becoming boring.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

        Wilder is the most ridiculous in all of boxing so it fits.

        He isn't fighting Andy. The ones he would never walk away from because of his supposedly strong "Loyalty" to them was just hot air and the same insanity as all the rest of the madness he came out with. He's running because he's frightened. He's a coward. Why can't you see what is staring you in the face all these years?
        I wouldn't call him a "Coward." After all, he fought the best HW in the game 3 times! At this point, I just think he's just looking for cash, because he knows his legacy is ruined!

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Boricua181 View Post

          Wow those fight's were back in the day, the two I mentioned are more contemporary, but you're right.
          The best part about the fight was Toney submitted to a choke hold in like a minute & he got paid more than Couture even after the bonus for winning. I believe Toney got $750000 & Randy $250000 & a bonus $200000 for the win. Toney was the real winner that night… I don’t think Toney even bothered to train…

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          • #55
            Originally posted by joe strong View Post
            The best part about the fight was Toney submitted to a choke hold in like a minute & he got paid more than Couture even after the bonus for winning. I believe Toney got $750000 & Randy $250000 & a bonus $200000 for the win. Toney was the real winner that night… I don’t think Toney even bothered to train…
            That's just plain crazy, isn't it? It sucks the way life works, doesn't it?

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
              Ngannou would be ****** to pimp himself to Wilder or Fury 1st. Both will KO him.

              Ngannou should take the Jake Paul route. Ngannou could box some NFL or NBA player and build up hype from Casuals and MMA fans. After Floyd McGregor most know a Boxer wins in a boxing match and I doubt either Fury or Wilder honor the MMA match.
              This is actually a very bad idea . No one has ever seen Ngannou box before so the expectations aren’t even there and there’s a level of unknowns if that fight took place because many MMA fans think Ngannou is a legit boxer ,if he boxed anyone they might expose him win or lose and it would hurt the anticipation of any Ngannou fight vs a top boxer .

              Greg Hardy is probably a better boxer then Ngannou and he just clobbered in that bare knuckle event by a much smaller fat guy ,he’s done there’s not going to be any super fight in that type of event now and or boxing because of that .

              Ngannou better just take any super fight now he doesn’t have 2 years to develope ,he’s not going to be a boxer it’s just not going to happen he’s built for MMA and he s probably already peaked ,I’d say he looks like a very poor version of Tony Tucker type boxer who won’t want to risk any potential future match ups and Wilder isn’t even the guy to make an easy fight it’s Joshua and Hearn who has actually explained the boxing business to him and cautioned him be careful who you waste time with a few weeks ago . I see this as a Wilder clout chase nothing more .
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-01-2023, 01:29 PM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                The best part about the fight was Toney submitted to a choke hold in like a minute & he got paid more than Couture even after the bonus for winning. I believe Toney got $750000 & Randy $250000 & a bonus $200000 for the win. Toney was the real winner that night… I don’t think Toney even bothered to train…
                Toney trained his azz off ( for his level which isn’t even close to any top UFC condition training ) put in work with grappling ,etc. and had more then enough warnings not to do it from guys like Hopkins after he visited an MMA gym .

                The fact he really thought he was going to win was funny as hell though , and he became even worse after the loss it never humbled him ,in fact it made Toney so disconnected with reality he still thinks he’s the toughest guy on the planet . Yes he got paid but there’s no price on a guy like that mentality where he can’t lose a fight to a guy he said fights like a girl etc.
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-01-2023, 01:40 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                  I wouldn't call him a "Coward." After all, he fought the best HW in the game 3 times! At this point, I just think he's just looking for cash, because he knows his legacy is ruined!
                  Bronx, we all know how those fights with Fury came about. It wasn't for the challenge. They thought he was shot and cherry picked him. It just backfired spectacularly. Fight 2 had to happen because he was now trapped. Fight 3 wasn't supposed to happen though. They thought they were going to get the step aside when they thought AJ/Fury was about to be given a date. Problem was, Fury and co never had any intention of fighting AJ. Haha. It was always Wilder in fight 3. Wilder and his side just didn't know about it.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    Bronx, we all know how those fights with Fury came about. It wasn't for the challenge. They thought he was shot and cherry picked him. It just backfired spectacularly. Fight 2 had to happen because he was now trapped. Fight 3 wasn't supposed to happen though. They thought they were going to get the step aside when they thought AJ/Fury was about to be given a date. Problem was, Fury and co never had any intention of fighting AJ. Haha. It was always Wilder in fight 3. Wilder and his side just didn't know about it.
                    Did he fight him 3 times? Is Fury overwhelmingly seen as the best HW since Lennox Lewis? He's no coward! He's just finished!

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                      Did he fight him 3 times? Is Fury overwhelmingly seen as the best HW since Lennox Lewis? He's no coward! He's just finished!
                      I've just told you how those fights came about. It wasn't for the challenge. Had Fury been at his best, Wilder wouldn't have gone anywhere near him just like he didn't go anywhere near the others.

                      How could Wilder get out of fight 2? He was forced to go through with it. Wilder just kept on telling himself he couldn't punch. But when fight 2 came, Wilder backed away from the start and didn't do anything. He just got beat up. You're not trying to tell me he went there with the intention of winning? You think that was Wilder believing in himself and going for the win? He barely threw any punches. He backed down from the start and got beat up and stopped.

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