Comments Thread For: Wilder Says He's Having A 'Real Discussion' With Ngannou: 'We're Trying To Do a Two-Fight Deal'

[Marchegiano]

Why not wait till boxing career over? One kick in leg and may never be the same again!
why fury talk, why not ruiz?

Because he was asked about Fury, not Ruiz. ... dur.

[Bronx2245]

I've just told you how those fights came about. It wasn't for the challenge. Had Fury been at his best, Wilder wouldn't have gone anywhere near him just like he didn't go anywhere near the others.

How could Wilder get out of fight 2? He was forced to go through with it. Wilder just kept on telling himself he couldn't punch. But when fight 2 came, Wilder backed away from the start and didn't do anything. He just got beat up. You're not trying to tell me he went there with the intention of winning? You think that was Wilder believing in himself and going for the win? He barely threw any punches. He backed down from the start and got beat up and stopped.

Fury Overcomes Two Knockdowns, Drops Wilder Three Times For Knockout in Eleven

LAS VEGAS – It took Tyson Fury 10-plus rounds Saturday night, but the huge heavyweight finally emphatically finished his trilogy with Deontay Wilder.

The undefeated Fury violently knocked out a brave-but-exhausted Wilder with a right hand that sent the former WBC heavyweight champion crashing to the canvas early in the 11th round of a stunning slugfest that thoroughly entertained a crowd of 15,820 at T-Mobile Arena...

The ever-resilient Fury (31-0-1, 22 KOs), of Manchester, England, had to get up from two knockdowns during the fourth round to come back to defeat Wilder in this brutal brawl. All three judges – Tim Cheatham (94-92), Dave Moretti (95-91) and Steve Weisfeld (95-92) – had Fury ahead entering the 11th round.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-ove...eleven--161136

Yeah, I think he was coming to win! He's just not good enough, and thus far, no one else is either!

[Roberto Vasquez]

Well he Fought Fury 3 times and Ortiz twice, and thats the best of this era right there. In his last fight smoked Helenius, who beat Chisora better than Usyk could.

Who has Ortiz beat? Only Jennings years ago. It was a very good win but if that's the only guy you are relying on...

Wilder chose Fury when he was fat and retired with no belts. Hardly ambitious. He said Joshua offered him more money but he chose Fury. That was when AJ had 3 belts. Makes no sense. I'm sure he regrets that now AJ looks very vulnerable.

Usyk is a small HW coming up from Cruiserweight. It's not really a valid comparison. Usyk isn't going to KO most fighters fast. He took a long time to stop bum Witherspoon. Actually kind of the dumbest comparision Ive seen someone make. I'm pretty sure Wilder would smoke Pianeta in a round where as Fury went the distance with a journeyman. Joshua would have done too. Does that make them better than Fury? Doesn't mean anything really unless you are comparing like with like

[Willow The Wisp]

Fury was in a bad way which is why Wilder went after him. After losing the first fight he was now trapped. He couldn't run from the rematches unless he accepted the game being up on his big con.

Ortiz, like Wilder, is a never was and never will be. He was never close to being anywhere near to the best of this era. Nor is Wilder. They operated outside of the era and had their own bum club up and running while the actual best fought each other. They just ducked everyone like Wilder is doing now with Ruiz. Which was as predictable as it gets.

Lastly, Chisora dominated Helenius and ruined him as a fighter. It wasn't even remotely close and was in fact one of the biggest robberies you'll ever see.

You can now continue wasting life on this cesspit creating your fantasies.

You are a man of strong opinions and I like it! You disrespect fighters but, what? You like the sport anyway?

You ever been to a fight?

You know that after Ortiz had been KOd twice by Wilder he KOd the guy that Joshua won his initial "Title" from, right?

You think Joshua would beat top notchers Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury? Why? Because he has wins over Joseph Parker, Eric Molina, old Alexander Povetkin and Dominic Breazele???? Well, so does Deontay Wilder and Dillian Whyte. Better wins.

The world has passed you by I'm afraid.

[Willow The Wisp]

Who has Ortiz beat? Only Jennings years ago. It was a very good win but if that's the only guy you are relying on...

Wilder chose Fury when he was fat and retired with no belts. Hardly ambitious. He said Joshua offered him more money but he chose Fury. That was when AJ had 3 belts. Makes no sense. I'm sure he regrets that now AJ looks very vulnerable.

Usyk is a small HW coming up from Cruiserweight. It's not really a valid comparison. Usyk isn't going to KO most fighters fast. He took a long time to stop bum Witherspoon. Actually kind of the dumbest comparision Ive seen someone make. I'm pretty sure Wilder would smoke Pianeta in a round where as Fury went the distance with a journeyman. Joshua would have done too. Does that make them better than Fury? Doesn't mean anything really unless you are comparing like with like

How is it that everyone here seems to imagine that they have insider information about all of the unsuccessful negotiations? Gotta call BS on that. Regardless, that Wilder and Joshua haven't met, just think if you are in charge of piloting Joshua’s career right now. Would YOU let him anywhere near Deontay Wilder?????

Listen, if you can't take the punishment from a Ruiz and you can't set the trap for a Oleksandr Usyk......you probably can't do anything more against history's most deadly puncher than Robert Helenius did. Maybe less. Helenius was comming directly off the two best wins of his career against Wilder. Joshua is 2-3 in his last 5 and still prime!

[Sid-Knee]

Fury Overcomes Two Knockdowns, Drops Wilder Three Times For Knockout in Eleven

LAS VEGAS – It took Tyson Fury 10-plus rounds Saturday night, but the huge heavyweight finally emphatically finished his trilogy with Deontay Wilder.

The undefeated Fury violently knocked out a brave-but-exhausted Wilder with a right hand that sent the former WBC heavyweight champion crashing to the canvas early in the 11th round of a stunning slugfest that thoroughly entertained a crowd of 15,820 at T-Mobile Arena...

The ever-resilient Fury (31-0-1, 22 KOs), of Manchester, England, had to get up from two knockdowns during the fourth round to come back to defeat Wilder in this brutal brawl. All three judges – Tim Cheatham (94-92), Dave Moretti (95-91) and Steve Weisfeld (95-92) – had Fury ahead entering the 11th round.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-ove...eleven--161136

Yeah, I think he was coming to win! He's just not good enough, and thus far, no one else is either!

I'm clearly talking about fight 2. Fury wasn't at his best in fight 3 due to his daughter being unwell. Still, Wilder only won a couple of rounds and got knocked out. Wilder, even at his best, couldn't beat the worst versions of Fury.

[Sid-Knee]

You are a man of strong opinions and I like it! You disrespect fighters but, what? You like the sport anyway?

You ever been to a fight?

You know that after Ortiz had been KOd twice by Wilder he KOd the guy that Joshua won his initial "Title" from, right?

You think Joshua would beat top notchers Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury? Why? Because he has wins over Joseph Parker, Eric Molina, old Alexander Povetkin and Dominic Breazele???? Well, so does Deontay Wilder and Dillian Whyte. Better wins.

The world has passed you by I'm afraid.

Everything i said was fact, not opinion. You on the other hand are in the clouds with delusional fantasies.

Martin was undefeated when AJ beat him. AJ messed his mind up bad. Did you not see all his YT videos of him afterwards of him losing the plot? Who cares that Ortiz beat him years later. It's not even a decent win for AJ. And that's the best version. The finished version means less than nothing.

Deontay was never top notch. Never will be. Wilder himself doesn't believe he can beat AJ. He turned down the most extreme offer in boxing history that a bum has ever been offered. He lied again and again and went for what he saw as the easier fight with a man with "Pillow fists" and much less money. Wilder said these words himself. They're not made up lies your nonsense is. Wilder's words also included AJ being desperate to get the fight with him. But enjoy your fantasies.

Why, who did Wilder beat and what kind of performance did he have that made you delude yourself that an unskilled bum who is frightened would win? Please tell. AJ has plenty of wins against world class fighters. "Till this day" Wilder has none.

Wilder proving himself world class or having any courage has past you, and he, by, more like. But do enjoy the remaining ambers of the biggest fraud and extremist the sport has ever seen while you can. It will be all over soon.

[Sid-Knee]

How is it that everyone here seems to imagine that they have insider information about all of the unsuccessful negotiations? Gotta call BS on that. Regardless, that Wilder and Joshua haven't met, just think if you are in charge of piloting Joshua’s career right now. Would YOU let him anywhere near Deontay Wilder?????

Listen, if you can't take the punishment from a Ruiz and you can't set the trap for a Oleksandr Usyk......you probably can't do anything more against history's most deadly puncher than Robert Helenius did. Maybe less. Helenius was comming directly off the two best wins of his career against Wilder. Joshua is 2-3 in his last 5 and still prime!

Yes, Wilder is a lost cause after AJ lost a close one with an ATG who has a mass of skills. How could he possibly beat that unskilled bum with a glass chin? Hmmm.

You mean the Ruiz he made a mistake against and settled it in the rematch with a one sided schooling in the rematch?

Lay off the crack and go outside to get some sunshine. This delusion you're wasting your time on is a person who leads a sad and pointless exsistance.

A shot fighter for over a decade who had been out for a year after beating a complete bum twice was does better than AJ? I don't doubt you believe this insanity. I also don't doubt you have serious psychological problems either.

Look after yourself.

[Willow The Wisp]

I'm clearly talking about fight 2. Fury wasn't at his best in fight 3 due to his daughter being unwell. Still, Wilder only won a couple of rounds and got knocked out. Wilder, even at his best, couldn't beat the worst versions of Fury.

Sounds too agendasized; working into something you already beleive with supporting theories, which is AOK.

I think Fury is the better man, but only by one second.
I think that the top heavyweights, be it Fury, Wilder, Joshua, Ruiz, Usyk, Ortiz Joyce; or Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Quarry, Lyle, Shavers; are separated by thin margins, and on any given night, one can craft a victory over any other. That's what makes it a great sport. That's just me and I don't know ****.

[Sid-Knee]

Sounds too agendasized; working into something you already beleive with supporting theories, which is AOK.

I think Fury is the better man, but only by one second.
I think that the top heavyweights, be it Fury, Wider, Joshua, Ruiz, Usyk, Ortiz Jotce; or Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Quarry, Lyle, Shavers; are separated by thin margins, and on any given night, one can craft a victory over any other. That's what makes it a great sport. That's just me and I don't know ****.

Yes, the only thing that separates Fury and Wilder is, one second. Hahahaha.

Gaslighting with the Agenda comment is just priceless.

As i say, look after yourself.