Comments Thread For: Wilder Says He's Having A 'Real Discussion' With Ngannou: 'We're Trying To Do a Two-Fight Deal'

[Bronx2245]

I'm clearly talking about fight 2. Fury wasn't at his best in fight 3 due to his daughter being unwell. Still, Wilder only won a couple of rounds and got knocked out. Wilder, even at his best, couldn't beat the worst versions of Fury.

Oh yeah, fight 2 was a massacre! I don't think anyone can beat the best version of Fury, and Fury was at his best in fight 2! However Wilder wasn't afraid to fight Fury in fight 3, even after that beatdown! He's no coward!

[Willow The Wisp]

Oh yeah, fight 2 was a massacre! I don't think anyone can beat the best version of Fury, and Fury was at his best in fight 2! However Wilder wasn't afraid to fight Fury in fight 3, even after that beatdown! He's no coward!

Skid row or skinned knee, whatever; he's one of those casual fans that throws words like bum around alot. That's a big tell right there, but he's a big fan of Joshua and I get that. But while all the guys near the top have their merits, when Fury stopped Wilder in fight 2 on Wilder's one off night in their historic series, Wilder wanted to continue fighting, yelling at his corner, firing trainer Brealand afterwards. When Andy Ruiz Jr took out Joshua, the former beltholder had the opposite expression of, I quit. That's the biggest difference between the two. Joshua's just an athlete, Wilder and Fury are WARRIORS.

[Willow The Wisp]

What do you mean, what happened? Wilder has always been scared to fight with the top fighters. Fury only came about due to him thinking he was shot. If he weren't in that kind of condition, Wilder wouldn't have gone anywhere near him.

I knew he'd throw roadblocks around the way he does to get out of the Ruiz fight. it was never going to happen.

THIS Generation's best Heavyweights 5 years back 2018 - 2023.

If Jermain Franklin beats Anthony Joshua....there's no coming back for A.J., and the list below, you'd have to build a case for his inclusion in the top 10 should Franklin somehow stop him.


1. Tyson Fury
2. Deontay Wilder
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Andy Ruiz Jr
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Dillian Whyte
8. Joe Joyce
9. Alexander Povetkin
10. Jarrell Miller
11. Joseph Parker
12. Kubrat Pulev
13. Filip Hrgovic
14. Zhilei Zhang
15. Derek Chisora
16. Daniel Dubois
17. Otto Wallin
18. Martin Bakole
19. Frank Sanchez
20. Hughie Fury
21. Robert Helenius
22. Charles Martin
23. Fabio Wardley
24. Chris Arreola
25. Jermain Franklin

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Oh yeah, fight 2 was a massacre! I don't think anyone can beat the best version of Fury, and Fury was at his best in fight 2! However Wilder wasn't afraid to fight Fury in fight 3, even after that beatdown! He's no coward!

The point in fight two was Deontay didn't even try to win. he did very little. That isn't a "Warrior" who gives his all. He meekly backed down from the tart save a few punches here and there. The same thing happened in the Ortiz rematch. He was scared to throw.

Wilder didn't expect that 3rd fight to happen. That is not what he and his team planned. They planned a step aside fee. Never in a million years did they think Fury would walk away from the biggest fight in boxing to take a fight with him for a 3rd time for a whole lot less. Problem is, Wilder is ****** and doesn't know Fury very well. He's a con artist just like himself who is a pathological liar and wishes to create a perception because the truth is too much to bare.

Wilder has ducked his whole career and proven to be the biggest delusional extremist boxing has had yet. He's an entitled narcissist who is the personification of a true coward. If he isn't, no one is.

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Skid row or skinned knee, whatever; he's one of those casual fans that throws words like bum around alot. That's a big tell right there, but he's a big fan of Joshua and I get that. But while all the guys near the top have their merits, when Fury stopped Wilder in fight 2 on Wilder's one off night in their historic series, Wilder wanted to continue fighting, yelling at his corner, firing trainer Brealand afterwards. When Andy Ruiz Jr took out Joshua, the former beltholder had the opposite expression of, I quit. That's the biggest difference between the two. Joshua's just an athlete, Wilder and Fury are WARRIORS.

I'm not the one who can't justify my position and uses delusion to think i'm right whilst getting dominated on every point available. You are.

Wilder had an off night but AJ didn't? AJ was the only one who came into the ring with problems. The rematch cleared everything up. The rematch for Wilder didn't.

Wilder didn't even bother to fight or throw many punches in the second fight. But he's a warrior who didn't quit? Haha. Even with his ear drum burst AJ was throwing a lot more punches against Ruiz.

AJ didn't quit. He followed the refs instructions. But i understand. You're a narcissist who wants to warp reality to suit your agenda like all you extremists do. Wilder is nothing but a product of his environment like you and the rest of the extremists on here. He has the same personality as you do. You just don't have any self-awareness, integrity or honesty. You're pathological in all of your personality disorders. A fantasist to your core. You're not a troll. You really are this warped. That's why you can't justify a single point.

Wilder is an unskilled cowardly fraud who has the credentials of one. No world class wins to speak of. The opposition is shocking. AJ is the opposite and is a world class fighter who has the credentials of one. Let me know when Wilder proves the same.

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THIS Generation's best Heavyweights 5 years back 2018 - 2023.

If Jermain Franklin beats Anthony Joshua....there's no coming back for A.J., and the list below, you'd have to build a case for his inclusion in the top 10 should Franklin somehow stop him.


1. Tyson Fury
2. Deontay Wilder
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Andy Ruiz Jr
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Dillian Whyte
8. Joe Joyce
9. Alexander Povetkin
10. Jarrell Miller
11. Joseph Parker
12. Kubrat Pulev
13. Filip Hrgovic
14. Zhilei Zhang
15. Derek Chisora
16. Daniel Dubois
17. Otto Wallin
18. Martin Bakole
19. Frank Sanchez
20. Hughie Fury
21. Robert Helenius
22. Charles Martin
23. Fabio Wardley
24. Chris Arreola
25. Jermain Franklin

This is a list without a single rational thought put into it. It was a waste of time.

Wilder isn't top 10 by the fact he doesn't have any wins to merit it like others do. Putting him second is nothing but a delusion. But please give me a laugh in trying to justify that joke being second?

Hell, Joyce has a better resume. And he's only just started. He isn't finished yet.

[Roberto Vasquez]

How is it that everyone here seems to imagine that they have insider information about all of the unsuccessful negotiations? Gotta call BS on that. Regardless, that Wilder and Joshua haven't met, just think if you are in charge of piloting Joshua’s career right now. Would YOU let him anywhere near Deontay Wilder?????

Listen, if you can't take the punishment from a Ruiz and you can't set the trap for a Oleksandr Usyk......you probably can't do anything more against history's most deadly puncher than Robert Helenius did. Maybe less. Helenius was comming directly off the two best wins of his career against Wilder. Joshua is 2-3 in his last 5 and still prime!

You didn't tell me why Ortiz was great?

I just went on what Wilder himself said on Youtube. Isn't that best source?? He said AJ offered him more money than Fury but he went with Fury. It's not insider information when it's in the public domain!

What has Joshua got to do with it now?? He doesn't have any belts. Joshua is rebuilding after a loss. Let him have his fight against Franklin and then see if Wilder wants it. The point was - the Joshua fight was there for Wilder when AJ had all the other belts!

I'd put Joshua in with anyone when he's ready. I'd be a fan's promoter. To be fair Joshua has been put in some tough fights and he has gone for the Fury and Wilder fights. Fury pulled out of 2 AJ fights and Wilder admitted not taking the AJ fight.

The other thing - you say how dangerous Wilder is - but he hardly fights anyone in the top-10. So he is really that dangerous? Because if so - why doesn't he believe it himself?

[Willow The Wisp]

I'm not the one who can't justify my position and uses delusion to think i'm right whilst getting dominated on every point available. You are.

Wilder had an off night but AJ didn't? AJ was the only one who came into the ring with problems. The rematch cleared everything up. The rematch for Wilder didn't.

Wilder didn't even bother to fight or throw many punches in the second fight. But he's a warrior who didn't quit? Haha. Even with his ear drum burst AJ was throwing a lot more punches against Ruiz.

AJ didn't quit. He followed the refs instructions. But i understand. You're a narcissist who wants to warp reality to suit your agenda like all you extremists do. Wilder is nothing but a product of his environment like you and the rest of the extremists on here. He has the same personality as you do. You just don't have any self-awareness, integrity or honesty. You're pathological in all of your personality disorders. A fantasist to your core. You're not a troll. You really are this warped. That's why you can't justify a single point.

Wilder is an unskilled cowardly fraud who has the credentials of one. No world class wins to speak of. The opposition is shocking. AJ is the opposite and is a world class fighter who has the credentials of one. Let me know when Wilder proves the same.

Trying to get a handle on what you're thinking, beyond stating that "Fury is a con artist" and "Wilder is a dumb coward".

Well, that takes care of the two best fighters who bagan pro careers in the 21st century (including those fighting in small man weighclasses and in pay-nothing rules combat sports who know enough about themselves to stay put in the minor leagues).

So, who is your favorite fighter in the big boy class, in the only combat sport that pays??

Not......not Anthony Joshua???
You are a holdout from the days when he was on a roll, and people were thinking he was going to be the next Ali-Frazier-Foreman-Holmes-Tyson-Lewis-W. Klitschko dominator?

Serously?

The first shot Wilder lands on Joshua, and he always lands; Joshua is OUT.

Unskilled, Joshua's "world class" opponents (Whyte, Martin, Parker, Ruiz, Usyk, very Old men)...Lol.

[Sid-Knee]

Trying to get a handle on what you're thinking, beyond stating that "Fury is a con artist" and "Wilder is a dumb coward".

Well, that takes care of the two best fighters who bagan pro careers in the 21st century (including those fighting in small man weighclasses and in pay-nothing rules combat sports who know enough about themselves to stay put in the minor leagues).

So, who is your favorite fighter in the big boy class, in the only combat sport that pays??

Not......not Anthony Joshua???
You are a holdout from the days when he was on a roll, and people were thinking he was going to be the next Ali-Frazier-Foreman-Holmes-Tyson-Lewis-W. Klitschko dominator?

Serously?

The first shot Wilder lands on Joshua, and he always lands; Joshua is OUT.

Unskilled, Joshua's "world class" opponents (Whyte, Martin, Parker, Ruiz, Usyk, very Old men)...Lol.

Struggling to understand the points isn't a surprise when it's people like you i'm dealing with.

Yeah, Whyte, Usyk, Martin etc etc were walking around with their walking sticks. They weren't prime or anything. Duh. Plus they have skill-sets beyond even the fantasies of Wilder.

Are those AJ opponents the ones Wilder wanted nothing to do with and couldn't come close to beating them as he was scared of everyone? Not only that, but Wilder's only win of merit in his fraudulent career is a fighter much less proven and older than them in Ortiz. At no point did Ortiz or many of his opponents go once Wilder landed. He struggled badly with all those bums and went late in the fight.

AJ always lands and has the better ability to do so. Wilder can't take that power. AJ gets his shots off first. AJ does so against world class fighters. Wilder struggles with bums and gets wreaked by the only world class fighter he's ever fought. He only fought Fury because he thought Fury was shot. Ooops. Haha.

As i say, let me know when Wilder has the courage to fight those that matter and gets wins of worth. His bums have no credibility. But we all know Wilder is running from Ruiz because he knows what is coming. That's why Wilder is an eternal coward. Always has been. Always will be.

Later. Enjoy the deranged excuses Wilder will come out with for duck number 79. Either that or watch him cuddle his daddy in Fury like a b1tch.

[Willow The Wisp]

Struggling to understand the points isn't a surprise when it's people like you i'm dealing with.

Yeah, Whyte, Usyk, Martin etc etc were walking around with their walking sticks. They weren't prime or anything. Duh. Plus they have skill-sets beyond even the fantasies of Wilder.

Are those AJ opponents the ones Wilder wanted nothing to do with and couldn't come close to beating them as he was scared of everyone? Not only that, but Wilder's only win of merit in his fraudulent career is a fighter much less proven and older than them in Ortiz. At no point did Ortiz or many of his opponents go once Wilder landed. He struggled badly with all those bums and went late in the fight.

AJ always lands and has the better ability to do so. Wilder can't take that power. AJ gets his shots off first. AJ does so against world class fighters. Wilder struggles with bums and gets wreaked by the only world class fighter he's ever fought. He only fought Fury because he thought Fury was shot. Ooops. Haha.

As i say, let me know when Wilder has the courage to fight those that matter and gets wins of worth. His bums have no credibility. But we all know Wilder is running from Ruiz because he knows what is coming. That's why Wilder is an eternal coward. Always has been. Always will be.

Later. Enjoy the deranged excuses Wilder will come out with for duck number 79. Either that or watch him cuddle his daddy in Fury like a b1tch.

Well, OK. But Wilder blew away Luis Ortiz twice, and after that, Ortiz blew Away Charles Martin, so I guess Wilder's "bums" KO Joshua’s "World Class opponents" when they meet. Ruiz didn't train for the Joshua rematch because the first fight was so easy for him. The Ruiz, Joshua, Parker class of fighter are just another KO for Hall of Fame bound KO king Wilder, who has at least drawn with everybody hes ever fought, while media creation A.J. was racking up the losses to fringe contenders and cruiserweight champions.