Comments Thread For: Wilder Says He's Having A 'Real Discussion' With Ngannou: 'We're Trying To Do a Two-Fight Deal'

[Willow The Wisp]

Wilder would win that fight easily. I think it would be a big money fight that the Saudis would pay for. Here in the United States not so much. Wilder knows that his career is coming to a close soon, so he is trying to cash out in the end. He is a punch or two of being seriously knocked out and he knows that. A lot of upcoming heavyweight fighters know now to beat Wilder is that they have to avoid the right hand bomb of his and then take him to deep waters and get him later.

....and to be Tyson Fury. That's the other minor ingredient required to beat Deontay Wilder you forgot to mention.

But even being that, you have to be able to peel yourself off the floor FOUR times.

[Willow The Wisp]

…but it shouldn’t be. The chickens have come home to roost, thanks to all the corruption in boxing. People in boxing don’t care about boxing, they never have. It’s always been the bottom line. At one time they had to cater to a fan base that wouldn’t tolerate this bastardized version of boxing. They are breathing in a huge sense of relief that they are no longer bound by the lingering remnants of integrity and principles.

Kickboxing is dead again, the UFC has given MMA the overexposure blues and there are Zoro folk heroes like Liddell, Couture, Rousey & McGregor to generate the next generation of new fans in spite of ESPN paying the bills (which the Fratitas saw coming)Kickboxing is dead again, the UFC has given MMA the overexposure blues and there are Zoro folk heroes like Liddell, Couture, Rousey & McGregor there to generate the next generation of new fans in spite of ESPN paying the bills (which the Fertittas saw coming), BNFC and other brands are commanding some attention, and International Amateur boxing is heading downward; while the pro game remains steady, as it always does, even as accessing it continues to shift and evolve. This, despite boxing's business "stewardship" not giving a single moment of thought to what's good for the sport, as you point out.
Undecided about the pros and cons of "entertainment boxing".

[Sid-Knee]

He's a lying Mo Fo. He isn't in discussion with any of the top fighters because he's too scared to fight them. He ran away from PBC because they want the Ruiz fight. That isn't Wilder's style. He likes his bums or those he thinks are shot. He wants an MMA fighter under boxing rules, not MMA rules.

Also, why would he say that he hopes fighters know they're in discussions if they're, you know, supposedly in discussion with him? Dude is a straight window licker who can't lie to save his life. He needed to pay someone to lie for him so he didn't have to expose himself every time he opened his mouth. His cowardice would be seen for all to see. But damn, have a bit of intelligence with it FFS.

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder, 37, indicated that he expects to return to the ring anytime between "May, June, and December."

Is it me, or does that timeline seem ridiculous??? Just fight Andy Ruiz! MAN UP!

Wilder is the most ridiculous in all of boxing so it fits.

He isn't fighting Andy. The ones he would never walk away from because of his supposedly strong "Loyalty" to them was just hot air and the same insanity as all the rest of the madness he came out with. He's running because he's frightened. He's a coward. Why can't you see what is staring you in the face all these years?

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder would kill Ngannou. What happened to Wilder? Seems to be scared to fight anyone good. I thought he was going to fight Ruiz?

What do you mean, what happened? Wilder has always been scared to fight with the top fighters. Fury only came about due to him thinking he was shot. If he weren't in that kind of condition, Wilder wouldn't have gone anywhere near him.

I knew he'd throw roadblocks around the way he does to get out of the Ruiz fight. it was never going to happen.

[chicken-]

What do you mean, what happened? Wilder has always been scared to fight with the top fighters. Fury only came about due to him thinking he was shot. If he weren't in that kind of condition, Wilder wouldn't have gone anywhere near him.

I knew he'd throw roadblocks around the way he does to get out of the Ruiz fight. it was never going to happen.

He certainly knew Fury wasn't shot after fight #2 and still forced a 3rd fight, so you're just dumb. Ruiz is easy pickens for him, that fat slob almost lost to Chris Nipple Areola. Joshua/Whyte are easy pickens too and we know AJ wants nothing to do with that.

[Sid-Knee]

Well he Fought Fury 3 times and Ortiz twice, and thats the best of this era right there. In his last fight smoked Helenius, who beat Chisora better than Usyk could.

Fury was in a bad way which is why Wilder went after him. After losing the first fight he was now trapped. He couldn't run from the rematches unless he accepted the game being up on his big con.

Ortiz, like Wilder, is a never was and never will be. He was never close to being anywhere near to the best of this era. Nor is Wilder. They operated outside of the era and had their own bum club up and running while the actual best fought each other. They just ducked everyone like Wilder is doing now with Ruiz. Which was as predictable as it gets.

Lastly, Chisora dominated Helenius and ruined him as a fighter. It wasn't even remotely close and was in fact one of the biggest robberies you'll ever see.

You can now continue wasting life on this cesspit creating your fantasies.

[Sid-Knee]

....and to be Tyson Fury. That's the other minor ingredient required to beat Deontay Wilder you forgot to mention.

But even being that, you have to be able to peel yourself off the floor FOUR times.

And be in proper shape. Fury wasn't in the first and third fights which is why he had a tougher time of it. When he was in shape and active in the second fight, Wilder was dominated and not for a second in the fight.

Never forget ALL of the ingredients.

[Sid-Knee]

He certainly knew Fury wasn't shot after fight #2 and still forced a 3rd fight, so you're just dumb. Ruiz is easy pickens for him, that fat slob almost lost to Chris Nipple Areola. Joshua/Whyte are easy pickens too and we know AJ wants nothing to do with that.

Did you not read my comment? I said after losing the first fight Wilder was now trapped for the rematch.

The third fight was never supposed to happen though. They waited until the AJ/Fury fight was about to be given a date when they came out with their legal block. But they thought they'd get a step aside fee of millions to let the fight go ahead. That way they could pretend they wanted it and protect Wilder from another beating. The problem was, which they didn't know, was that Fury and Arum were never going to fight AJ in the first place. They actually wanted to use him to promote Fury the way he likes to and slander him because they didn't give 50/50 split of the money. But when they did, they were f3cked. Their plan was thwarted. Arum only had to put in the correct paperwork in time and Wilder and Haymon couldn't have done anything about it. But he didn't. They never intended to fight AJ in the first place.

Watching Shirly cry "Why didn't they offer us step aside" when they found out Fury was willing to fight Wilder a third time was hilarious.

I'm the smart one here. You're clearly the dumb one.

As for claiming AJ doesn't want the coward when he's fought the best and offered 100 Mill to get the coward into a ring only for that not to be good enough lets me know what kind of dumb level i'm dealing with here. Wilder struggled with bums repeatedly. But they're "Easy pickings"? Haha. Yeah, OK. Haha.

[YoungManRumble]

Ray Mercer & Tim Sylvia was MMA . James Toney & Randy Couture was also MMA rules…

I don't know if I read it on here but I heard a story about how the Mercer and Sylvia fight was having problems getting sanctioned as a boxing match so they set it up as an MMA match instead but with a gentleman's agreement that they'd stand up and box, no kicks or hold etc.

Well Sylvia came out and immediately leg kicked Mercer and Mercer just looks at him like "really man?!" then knocked him the **** out lol...