Comments Thread For: Wilder Says He's Having A 'Real Discussion' With Ngannou: 'We're Trying To Do a Two-Fight Deal'

[ELPacman]

I can see both winning at their own game. Wilder's legs are made to be taken down. Ngannou can easily walk into a Wilder bomb. I'm just not sure this is even needed.

Just a big paycheck for both which is great for them, but damn, boxing has become such a freak show in the past few years. So many odd matchups and celebrity boxing, it just isn't the same like when I grew up watching it. Which I guess is obvious at this point. Times have changed and so the sport has to adapt. I just miss watching regular boxing on cable TV with solid fighters who were both boxers, both working their way up the food chain. It sounds like those days are mostly long gone.

[Bullrider]

Seems the The Bronze Bomber can't get fights on the Showtime/PBC war zone no mo. What has happened to the Ruiz fight? I thought I heard him complain about Ruiz's offer from PBC, if I'm not mistaken. Didn't know what to make of it. Maybe he didn't want it to be 50/50 or something. I don't know.

[Sid-Knee]

You're comparing Wilder taking a savage beating 2 fights in a row and fighting Helenius coming off of 2 KO victories to AJ losing on points with little punishment and fighting a guy who lost to Dillian Whyte who is completely shot at this point.

Helenius fought Whyte in 2017, they were BOTH much fresher. Whyte had been knocked out cold twice since then by the time his fight with Franklin happened, which he barely won. Helenius also destroyed Kownacki twice after Kownacki went life and death with Arreola, who nearly beat Andy Ruiz.

I'm sure Wilder would've been more than willing to KO Whyte or Franklin for a comeback instead of Helenius, both foregone conclusions.

If you think Wilder is afraid of AJ then you are just dumb. Hearn isn't going to let that happen, the biggest money/smallest risk for AJ is a rematch with Whyte and I think we all know that's the next step for him, not Wilder.

The reasons for why Helenius was the opponent were obvious to anyone who isn't deranged. He's shot, been out of the ring as long as Wilder had. Plus, he's tall and easy to get to. Shot fighters need to be active. When they're out for too long, they lose more than momentum. Wilder wouldn't touch either Whyte or Franklin coming from a loss. He wouldn't touch them while winning either as his hideous resume clearly shows.

Arreola won two rounds. He didn't nearly beat Ruiz at all.

Yeah, Eddie wouldn't let that happen. He only offered the fight repeatedly with one of those offers being the most extreme offer in boxing history and had all of them turned down.

I don't think Wilder is afraid. I KNOW he is. The facts have proven so for years now. He's even ran away from Ruiz and looking to fight an MMA fighter. It's the same typical behaviour from Wilder. But you refuse to accept the facts that are endless? Yeah, i'm the dumb one. Clearly.

[chicken-]

The reasons for why Helenius was the opponent were obvious to anyone who isn't deranged. He's shot, been out of the ring as long as Wilder had. Plus, he's tall and easy to get to. Shot fighters need to be active. When they're out for too long, they lose more than momentum. Wilder wouldn't touch either Whyte or Franklin coming from a loss. He wouldn't touch them while winning either as his hideous resume clearly shows.

Arreola won two rounds. He didn't nearly beat Ruiz at all.

Yeah, Eddie wouldn't let that happen. He only offered the fight repeatedly with one of those offers being the most extreme offer in boxing history and had all of them turned down.

I don't think Wilder is afraid. I KNOW he is. The facts have proven so for years now. He's even ran away from Ruiz and looking to fight an MMA fighter. It's the same typical behaviour from Wilder. But you refuse to accept the facts that are endless? Yeah, i'm the dumb one. Clearly.

A 40 year old Arreola managed to hurt Ruiz, I don't think a younger, fresher version of that had any success against Wilder with 1 good arm.

Hearn's offer to Wilder was a multi-fight deal on DAZN, and Joshua would've lost to Ruiz to get to that point and derailed it anyway if I have my timeline correct. Joshua was offered 50 million to fight and refused to accept it, they'd rather make excuses and pretend like the money. If you think Hearn is ready to cash out AJ on Wilder already then you're nuts. Finkle told Hearn to send the offer over, crickets.

Fighting Ngannou for way more money than he'd get fighting a fat munchkin before Fury gets a chance to isn't much to complain about.

[Sid-Knee]

A 40 year old Arreola managed to hurt Ruiz, I don't think a younger, fresher version of that had any success against Wilder with 1 good arm.

Hearn's offer to Wilder was a multi-fight deal on DAZN, and Joshua would've lost to Ruiz to get to that point and derailed it anyway if I have my timeline correct. Joshua was offered 50 million to fight and refused to accept it, they'd rather make excuses and pretend like the money. If you think Hearn is ready to cash out AJ on Wilder already then you're nuts. Finkle told Hearn to send the offer over, crickets.

Fighting Ngannou for way more money than he'd get fighting a fat munchkin before Fury gets a chance to isn't much to complain about.

That's just the way it goes sometimes. it doesn't mean Wilder is better than Ruiz. Plus, Ruiz was inactive back then. Wilder wasn't.

The 50 Mill offer wasn't real. How many times do lunatics want to go through all this? They had meetings set. Shirly cancelled them and said "Accept the terms within 24 hours" They refused to sit down and discuss anything. It even came from Wilder's E-Mail account. If you think this is how a professional business operates, then you'll go for anything no matter how crazy.

The propaganda wasn't even good. Shirly knew getting money from BT Sport wasn't going to work due to AJ having a contract with Sky. AJ would have had to pay them most of the 50 Mill just to get out of the contract. Shirly knew this. But he also knew his market in the US and how delusional and thick they are.

Hope You lot and Wilder present all the evidence he has on Fury like he claimed for the big reveal. Or laugh at people who are pathologically disturbed. It's up to you.