Comments Thread For: Wilder Says He's Having A 'Real Discussion' With Ngannou: 'We're Trying To Do a Two-Fight Deal'

[juggernaut666]

Well, OK. But Wilder blew away Luis Ortiz twice, and after that, Ortiz blew Away Charles Martin, so I guess Wilder's "bums" KO Joshua’s "World Class opponents" when they meet. Ruiz didn't train for the Joshua rematch because the first fight was so easy for him. The Ruiz, Joshua, Parker class of fighter are just another KO for Hall of Fame bound KO king Wilder, who has at least drawn with everybody hes ever fought, while media creation A.J. was racking up the losses to fringe contenders and cruiserweight champions.

Wilder was saved by the bell in the first Ortiz fight and lost every round up until the 10th and Martin knocked down Ortiz with a jab and made a very rugged fight out of it , these aren’t fights anyone blew anyone away .

[Willow The Wisp]

Wilder was saved by the bell in the first Ortiz fight and lost every round up until the 10th and Martin knocked down Ortiz with a jab and made a very rugged fight out of it , these aren’t fights anyone blew anyone away .

...and none of the aforementioned are "bums" either. Lol

Just playing.

[Sid-Knee]

Well, OK. But Wilder blew away Luis Ortiz twice, and after that, Ortiz blew Away Charles Martin, so I guess Wilder's "bums" KO Joshua’s "World Class opponents" when they meet. Ruiz didn't train for the Joshua rematch because the first fight was so easy for him. The Ruiz, Joshua, Parker class of fighter are just another KO for Hall of Fame bound KO king Wilder, who has at least drawn with everybody hes ever fought, while media creation A.J. was racking up the losses to fringe contenders and cruiserweight champions.

Why are you not addressing the fact you called some AJ opponents as "Old" when they were in fact prime, whilst talking up the oldest of the lot in Ortiz? Haha. The one who proved absolutely nothing.

Ortiz is a better fighter than Charles Martin. But the version Ortiz fought was damaged goods. AJ messed his mind up and had him put up a load of crazy videos on YT. At no point was Martin world class either. The actual world class fighters AJ fought wouldn't lose to Ortiz or any of the other bums Wilder beat.

Ruiz has always been obese. But tell me what he couldn't do in the AJ rematch that he was able to any other time? Be specific and point it out.

Wilder isn't going to any hall of fame other than the one for pure cowards and bums.

Wilder didn't draw with Fury. He got a gift draw after losing to him.

The only media creation was Wilder as he hasn't beaten anyone and fought bums for years while being a vulture and using AJ's name to sell to a few thousand people. AJ on the other hand was unifying. You can't create that in the media. You're either good enough or you're not. AJ was, and is. Wilder never was or ever will be.

Wilder got hammered by a Fury who was dominated by a fighter in John McDermott who wasn't even good enough to be British champion, let alone be a fringe world level fighter going into the first AJ fight the way Ruiz was.

[Regge]

Why are you not addressing the fact you called some AJ opponents as "Old" when they were in fact prime, whilst talking up the oldest of the lot in Ortiz? Haha. The one who proved absolutely nothing.

Ortiz is a better fighter than Charles Martin. But the version Ortiz fought was damaged goods. AJ messed his mind up and had him put up a load of crazy videos on YT. At no point was Martin world class either. The actual world class fighters AJ fought wouldn't lose to Ortiz or any of the other bums Wilder beat.

Ruiz has always been obese. But tell me what he couldn't do in the AJ rematch that he was able to any other time? Be specific and point it out.

Wilder isn't going to any hall of fame other than the one for pure cowards and bums.

Wilder didn't draw with Fury. He got a gift draw after losing to him.

The only media creation was Wilder as he hasn't beaten anyone and fought bums for years while being a vulture and using AJ's name to sell to a few thousand people. AJ on the other hand was unifying. You can't create that in the media. You're either good enough or you're not. AJ was, and is. Wilder never was or ever will be.

Wilder got hammered by a Fury who was dominated by a fighter in John McDermott who wasn't even good enough to be British champion, let alone be a fringe world level fighter going into the first AJ fight the way Ruiz was.

Why is your pedophile ass even watching boxing you worthless brits suck at it. Lol

[chicken-]

Did you not read my comment? I said after losing the first fight Wilder was now trapped for the rematch.

The third fight was never supposed to happen though. They waited until the AJ/Fury fight was about to be given a date when they came out with their legal block. But they thought they'd get a step aside fee of millions to let the fight go ahead. That way they could pretend they wanted it and protect Wilder from another beating. The problem was, which they didn't know, was that Fury and Arum were never going to fight AJ in the first place. They actually wanted to use him to promote Fury the way he likes to and slander him because they didn't give 50/50 split of the money. But when they did, they were f3cked. Their plan was thwarted. Arum only had to put in the correct paperwork in time and Wilder and Haymon couldn't have done anything about it. But he didn't. They never intended to fight AJ in the first place.

Watching Shirly cry "Why didn't they offer us step aside" when they found out Fury was willing to fight Wilder a third time was hilarious.

I'm the smart one here. You're clearly the dumb one.

As for claiming AJ doesn't want the coward when he's fought the best and offered 100 Mill to get the coward into a ring only for that not to be good enough lets me know what kind of dumb level i'm dealing with here. Wilder struggled with bums repeatedly. But they're "Easy pickings"? Haha. Yeah, OK. Haha.

We'll never know the truth about the supposed step aside money. There are conflicting reports about how that went down and you're assuming what Tyson Fury said is gospel, when he's known to contradict himself every 5 minutes. AJ will get absolutely smashed by Wilder, which is why he's fighting Dillian Whyte's leftovers instead of offering to fight Wilder.

[low blows]

Trash money grab fight. Don't know who is clamoring for this.

Saudi blood money errr oil money is fueling this garbage fight with pure Queensbury rules this fight is a joke even the crude Wilder would toy with a novice fighter like the former UFC champion.

One shift in the rules to allow John Ruiz dirty boxing and I would bet the former UFC champion to grind down the spindly Wilder similar to what Fury did to him.

[Sid-Knee]

Why is your pedophile ass even watching boxing you worthless brits suck at it. Lol

Is that why we have a collective resume better than the US and Mexico? Is that why they refuse to fight us unless we're sabotaged? Cowards who know they can't win do that. They want a perception instead to manipulate the situation. On a level playing field, you get smacked up. Mexicans by everyone. Americans by us. It's always been this way. But keep on humiliating yourselves. You know you can't win otherwise. You'd have the evidence otherwise. But you don't. There's a reason for that.

[Sid-Knee]

We'll never know the truth about the supposed step aside money. There are conflicting reports about how that went down and you're assuming what Tyson Fury said is gospel, when he's known to contradict himself every 5 minutes. AJ will get absolutely smashed by Wilder, which is why he's fighting Dillian Whyte's leftovers instead of offering to fight Wilder.

Wilder and his team were expecting it. Did you not read the interview from Shirly asking why it wasn't offered so the AJ fight with Fury could happen?

Wilder's a bum who is running away from Ruiz. He has no intention of fighting AJ or any other world class fighter. He's made that clear for years. But you want to pretend otherwise?

AJ is coming back from two losses. He's rebuilding. You know, like Wilder did with the fight with a decade long shot Helenius who was beaten by the same Whyte you mention here when he was much fresher? But Shirly desperately wanted AJ coming from a loss like the cowards they are. Did you see him trying to push them into it for the advantage? Haha. Problem is, Wilder has already said he won't fight AJ. He only said the opposite when Shirly said it was the plan. He knows they want to cash him out so he's running away like he's always done. Where is that "Loyalty" he screamed about? Haha.

[chicken-]

Wilder and his team were expecting it. Did you not read the interview from Shirly asking why it wasn't offered so the AJ fight with Fury could happen?

Wilder's a bum who is running away from Ruiz. He has no intention of fighting AJ or any other world class fighter. He's made that clear for years. But you want to pretend otherwise?

AJ is coming back from two losses. He's rebuilding. You know, like Wilder did with the fight with a decade long shot Helenius who was beaten by the same Whyte you mention here when he was much fresher? But Shirly desperately wanted AJ coming from a loss like the cowards they are. Did you see him trying to push them into it for the advantage? Haha. Problem is, Wilder has already said he won't fight AJ. He only said the opposite when Shirly said it was the plan. He knows they want to cash him out so he's running away like he's always done. Where is that "Loyalty" he screamed about? Haha.

You're comparing Wilder taking a savage beating 2 fights in a row and fighting Helenius coming off of 2 KO victories to AJ losing on points with little punishment and fighting a guy who lost to Dillian Whyte who is completely shot at this point.

Helenius fought Whyte in 2017, they were BOTH much fresher. Whyte had been knocked out cold twice since then by the time his fight with Franklin happened, which he barely won. Helenius also destroyed Kownacki twice after Kownacki went life and death with Arreola, who nearly beat Andy Ruiz.

I'm sure Wilder would've been more than willing to KO Whyte or Franklin for a comeback instead of Helenius, both foregone conclusions.

If you think Wilder is afraid of AJ then you are just dumb. Hearn isn't going to let that happen, the biggest money/smallest risk for AJ is a rematch with Whyte and I think we all know that's the next step for him, not Wilder.

[Marchegiano]

We hate Wilder, he boxes badly and his resume is ****.

I hope this MMA guy who boxes badly and has no resume at all knocks him out.

It makes heaps of sense.