Why do people act like Anthony Joshua ducked Wilder ?

[kafkod]

You didn't need a crystal ball to know the possibility existed that Joshua could lose and the possibility existed that Joshua could leave DAZN for another broadcaster.

So the responsible thing to do was to fight Breazeale on Showtime and wait to see if Joshua won his next fight. There was absolutely no reason to fight Breazeale on DAZN. Any reasonable person would wait to see whether Joshua won his next fight and wait to see if Joshua re-signed with DAZN.

Man, you clearly don't have clue what you're talking about here. AJ never had any contract with DAZN until earlier this year. Do a bit of research if you want to lie credibly.

[kafkod]

That is a lie. Wilder offered Joshua the $50 million he asked for. It was a serious offer and Hearn admitted weeks after the offer was made that it was a serious offer and they were seriously considering it. Ultimately Joshua's team chose to duck Wilder. But let's not re-write history. Wilder's side made a huge offer, an offer so huge that they risked losing a lot of money on the deal. Joshua ducked.

A serious offer - made via social media by Wilder to AJ. After which Wilder's manager refused to talk to AJ's promoter about it or send him any details of the offer, other than: "Fiddy million dollars. Take it or leave it."

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

That is a lie. Wilder offered Joshua the $50 million he asked for. It was a serious offer and Hearn admitted weeks after the offer was made that it was a serious offer and they were seriously considering it. Ultimately Joshua's team chose to duck Wilder. But let's not re-write history. Wilder's side made a huge offer, an offer so huge that they risked losing a lot of money on the deal. Joshua ducked.

I don’t care. I don’t care what Hearn said, what team Wilder said or what the media reported.

The fight never happened, so who the f*** cares? You guys have been having this same argument for like 4 years now. Neither of you guys have any proof, you’re just choosing who to believe when in reality they’re all liars.

I do believe Team Wilder wanted the fight more than Team Joshua but all those supposed “offers” were blatantly PR, you’d have to naive or ****** to believe otherwise. Neither side did anywhere near enough to make that fight, they were both content just milking their cash cows for as long as possible. Actions speak louder than words.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Being fair to AJ, he did try to fight Wilder and got turned down, as Wilder himself admitted. And he couldn't fight either Fury or Wilder with them fighting nobody but each other, over and over, for the best part of 4 years. He has also fought Usyk twice.

He didn’t. You only believe he did to support your narrative. As I’ve just said to the Wilder side of the fence, you have to be naive or ****** to believe any of those offers were legitimate. Blatant PR stunts, just like a told you all with Fury-Joshua being “agreed” for the millionth time. You guys really need to wake up and smell the coffee man.

Anyway I’m done being in the middle of this pointless argument. Enjoy wasting your own time guys. I’m sure this thread will reach 10 pages in no time.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Ok, so now you're claiming AJ sent an offer to Wilder after winning his titles back from Ruiz, rather after he lost them. Neither claim is true, of course.

It was Team AJ (Hearn) sending the offer.

You do realize Joshua winning his titles back from Ruiz was after he lost to him right? Or are you unfamiliar with how time works?

[War Room]

I don’t care. I don’t care what Hearn said, what team Wilder said or what the media reported.

The fight never happened, so who the f*** cares? You guys have been having this same argument for like 4 years now. Neither of you guys have any proof, you’re just choosing who to believe when in reality they’re all liars.

I do believe Team Wilder wanted the fight more than Team Joshua but all those supposed “offers” were blatantly PR, you’d have to naive or ****** to believe otherwise. Neither side did anywhere near enough to make that fight, they were both content just milking their cash cows for as long as possible. Actions speak louder than words.

You got owned so nobody cares, ok lmao. WBC WBA IBF has the inside 411 on Wilder and speaks from within the industry, unlike yourself. When he speaks on Wilder, I think he speaks with a bit of authority, unlike yourself.

[WBC WBA IBF]

I don’t care. I don’t care what Hearn said, what team Wilder said or what the media reported.

The fight never happened, so who the f*** cares?

Now you're moving the goal posts. First you said neither side made a serious offer. When it's pointed out that you lied, you change your position to who cares.

Neither of you guys have any proof, you’re just choosing who to believe when in reality they’re all liars.

This is another lie. There is overwhelming evidence that the $50 million offer was serious and nobody involved disputes that it was serious. Only AJ fanboys claim it wasn't real. Hearn eventually admitted it was real and seriously considered. Team AJ just didn't want to fight Wilder in the US.

I do believe Team Wilder wanted the fight more than Team Joshua but all those supposed “offers” were blatantly PR, you’d have to naive or ****** to believe otherwise. Neither side did anywhere near enough to make that fight, they were both content just milking their cash cows for as long as possible.

More lies. Wilder's side desperately wanted the fight and did everything possible to make the fight, including accepting Hearn's lowball flat fee of $15 million. Which of course Hearn still found a way to duck by claiming it was more important to fight Povetkin instead.

[QueensburyRules]

You got owned so nobody cares, ok lmao. WBC WBA IBF has the inside 411 on Wilder and speaks from within the industry, unlike yourself. When he speaks on Wilder, I think he speaks with a bit of authority, unlike yourself.

- - U got the scoop on what's inside U Barney BigBoys, so let loose or U just another War Loon.

[WBC WBA IBF]

A serious offer - made via social media by Wilder to AJ.

You're lying. A term sheet was sent via email to Joshua, Joshua's management and Hearn. That is how the offer was made. Not via social media. Please don't make up blatant lies.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Man, you clearly don't have clue what you're talking about here. AJ never had any contract with DAZN until earlier this year. Do a bit of research if you want to lie credibly.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. Do you think Joshua fought on DAZN on a handshake? No, contracts were signed. When DAZN tried to get Wilder to sign, DAZN only had Joshua signed for his next fight (Miller, which turned into Ruiz). So DAZN had no legal right to promise Wilder a Joshua fight, because like you confirmed, DAZN didn't have any contract with Joshua beyond his next fight.

So there was no reason to fight Breazeale on DAZN when DAZN had no ability to guarantee that Joshua would fight Wilder.