Roach: "Floyd Needs Pacquiao, We Don't Need Him"

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They might just want a close deal to be done. Mayweather might come in throwing obscene numbers out there and Roach/Arum isn't going to allow that.

In the end, they both will have to decide what fight makes sense based on the end number$.

If you can get a 40% cut or 45% cut that will make you 30 million in one fight vs. fighting someone else where your cut is 65+% that will make you a lot le$$ because of your opponent......someone might cave to the offer of the lesser percentage which holds the greater amount of money in the one fight.

damm boy your right again,i agree with you and nicely put

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=handler000;6173622]

You can't be serious? Mayweather PAC will be large as possible without him fighting SSM. If you said harcore fans would like to see him fight Mosley first then I could understand. Who in their right mind is going to say well I don't want to see that fight because he didn't fight SSM? I used PAC because that was your example but I don't see him beating Cotto.

The only way a Floyd/Shane fight doesn't add to Floyd/Pac is if PBF loses. Other than that both guys would have preceded their showdown by beating the two best welterweights out there right now. If you can't understand that I don't know what to tell you.

[alexpz]

It seems that many don't realize this. I would say Roach doesn't realize that either but Roach may realize that Floyd is a draw because people want to see him lose but will use the fans that boo him as sign that they are not there for him...for negotiation purposes. But nobody can deny the facts and that is the PPV numbers and seats that are filled when he fights. Even if you look at the opponents, like JMM, when has JMM done the numbers that Floyd has done?

Which fight sells more tickets:

Floyd vs. Pac or Pac vs. Shane?

Floyd's numbers (so far) prove he is the better draw. Hatton, Goldy, and now JMM (but I'll wait until I see the PPV numbers in ink). We'll see what Pac does with Cotto. If he can generate big numbers and it shouldn't be any tougher than Floyd vs. JMM because Pac is fighting a Puerto-Rican/Cotto...than he has more of an arguement.

I think Floyd don't have that much fans as others. But by the way Floyd talks and pick ups his opponent he generates lots of haters. And those haters are willing to pay ppv to watch floyd lose.

[ortizracing]

floyd needs cotto

[PAC-BOY]

roach and pacman dont want none of pbf,they just saw what happened to marquez who took pac the distance twice and had a draw and a close loss.pbf would destroy pacman and roach knows it,hes already started making up excuses but forget that hes getting knocked out by cotto

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[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Benny Leonard;6173629]

And Paul Williams beat Margarito and everybody at 147 avoids Williams = Williams is #1

I would happily agree with this if PWill were still fighting at 147.

[handler000]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;6173655]

The only way a Floyd/Shane fight doesn't add to Floyd/Pac is if PBF loses. Other than that both guys would have preceded their showdown by beating the two best welterweights out there right now. If you can't understand that I don't know what to tell you.

So you are saying a FMJ/PAC fight doesn't push the 2.4 mil buys the FMJ/DLH did without him fighting SSM? I understand you are a Mosley fan but he is NOT needed in any equation to make that fight big. I understand where you are coming from but the 'casual fan' could care less IF they had just beat the 2 best welterweights. Look at the early numbers of the PBF and JMM fight it did over 800k and counting. Doesn't look like anyone cared he was fighting a LW who pack on a few pounds.

[handler000]

floyd needs cotto

For what? Only if people want to see PBF vs JMM 2.

[JAB5239]

For what? Only if people want to see PBF vs JMM 2.

Cotto is a legit welterweight threat, Marquez wasn't. If Cotto beats Pac Floyd needs him or Mosley to establish legitimacy as one of, if not the best welterweight.

[formarkiz]

Pressure

Roach is doing all this talking but Pac/Cotto better do well financially to back up these claims, that 24/7 better be entertaining, another 4 episodes of Pacquiao praying for a win is not going to cut it. Maybe they'll do "2fighters 1cup", since the urine thing worked so well for Marquez.