Roach: "Floyd Needs Pacquiao, We Don't Need Him"

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  • Pullcounter
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    #61
    Originally posted by handler000
    Newsflash...PAC-Diaz was NOT a sellout. I was there..
    it wasn't supposed to be a sellout... it was a tune up.

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    • handler000
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      #62
      Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
      Let him let their guard down! They will soon find out how they messed-up. By the time all is said and done it will be Cotto and Mosley fighting for lb4lb supremacy after they beat Manny and Floyd. That is if Floyd mans up and fights Mosley which I think is asking a lot from Floyd "*****" Mayweather. Also, Roach is just the trainer not the manager, damn!
      IF Cotto beats PAC, FMJ might want to whoop his ass first. FMJ vs JMM all over again.

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      • handler000
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        #63
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        it wasn't supposed to be a sellout... it was a tune up.


        LMAO..Bob always wants a sellout..You are getting more delusional by each post.

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        • PoetryInMotion
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          #64
          Originally posted by handler000
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          LMAO..Bob always wants a sellout..You are getting more delusional by each post.
          Sorry, but it made me laugh that a Floyd fan would call anyone delusional.

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          • Syf
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            #65
            Originally posted by MOREBASS
            Fortunately for Pacquiao, his marketability isn't about not having a loss.


            Pacquiao has already lost, and they don't build his marketability on never tasting defeat, unlike some other fighters.

            His marketability is built around his humble persona, and his fight style.


            Floyd's marketability is based on his unblemished record, and his big mouth. When Floyd loses (if he ever does, considering he carefully picks his opponents to avoid this)...his whole mystique will be gone.

            A great fighter indeed, but never dared to be great by taking the risks necessary.
            But pac hasn't lost in a long time to most of the public. There are a few die hard JMM'ers that say he lost to JMM, but most people regard him as not having lost for a long time.

            So, if he loses a highly, highly publicized fight against Mayweather, he would take a marketability hit. Except for the inevitable rematch, of course. In which case, he would take a purse split hit.. no?



            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            Translation: "we floyd stans are scared of mosley so we want floyd to pick on some more smaller boxers".
            I want to see both fights actually. I'm convinced he would make Shane look old, cuz Floyd is in the shape of his life right now, but I still want to see a matchup between them.

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              #66
              Originally posted by MOREBASS
              Fortunately for Pacquiao, his marketability isn't about not having a loss.


              Pacquiao has already lost, and they don't build his marketability on never tasting defeat, unlike some other fighters.

              His marketability is built around his humble persona, and his fight style.


              Floyd's marketability is based on his unblemished record, and his big mouth. When Floyd loses (if he ever does, considering he carefully picks his opponents to avoid this)...his whole mystique will be gone.

              A great fighter indeed, but never dared to be great by taking the risks necessary.
              *****: "he ain't a draw, you have to draw in order to fight Floyd (muah)

              "boxing is about hit without getting hit , if you don't appreciate Floyd (muah)'s talents, you don't know **** about boxing"

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              • PoetryInMotion
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                #67
                Originally posted by BUL@H@W
                *****: "he ain't a draw, you have to draw in order to fight Floyd (muah)

                "boxing is about hit without getting hit , if you don't appreciate Floyd (muah)'s talents, you don't know **** about boxing"
                This is going to become every Floyd nuthugger's reply phrase of choice. ****in Roger.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Syf
                  But pac hasn't lost in a long time to most of the public. There are a few die hard JMM'ers that say he lost to JMM, but most people regard him as not having lost for a long time.

                  So, if he loses a highly, highly publicized fight against Mayweather, he would take a marketability hit. Except for the inevitable rematch, of course. In which case, he would take a purse split hit.. no?

                  Most of the public knows about and saw his loss to Erik Morales...then saw how he came back and avenged the loss with two knockout victories.

                  His vulnerability is part of the reason why people love him so much. People can relate to vulnerability.


                  To answer your question...the fact that Manny would be moving up in weight to fight a bigger fighter, in a division in which physically he is outmatched, then he loses nothing, even in defeat.

                  That is one of the benefits of moving up in weight, and taking on bigger challenges.

                  The downside of fighting a guy coming up is obvious: You win, you just beat a smaller guy...you lose...you just lost to a smaller guy

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                  • darn
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Equinox
                    well it sure sounds like you guys need him, always talking about a fight with him when he never mentions a fight with you guys. and you DO need him. who is pacquiao going to fight next? valero in texas? lol.

                    floyd is the one that doesent need you, he can easily set up a big money fight with shane mosley.
                    but the problem is floyd wont fight mosley coz gayweather is scared to face mosley. pacquiao can fight anybody at 140 or even some fighters at WW, while gayweather is avoiding all the fighters at WW. after the cotto fight pacquiao will face mosley if pacquiao/gayweather wont happen and floyd " no money" gayweather will fight ivan calderon or ulysis solis

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                    • handler000
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by PoetryInMotion
                      Sorry, but it made me laugh that a Floyd fan would call anyone delusional.
                      Please take down that WarMarquez. 12% landing percentage, reminds me of Custer's last stance. He got his ass handed to him. LMAO

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