Floyd Mayweather Avoided Everyone Who Had A Physical Advantage Over Him ... Genius or Fraudster?

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. Malfunctions When Posed With Margarito Questions

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29.10.06 – By Scoop Malinowski: For those boxing fans who refused to believe that Floyd Mayweather could possibly be afraid of Antonio Margarito, I offer you this exchange during the recent Floyd Mayweather conference call:

CHUCK JOHNSON (USA Today): What do you think about Bob Arum calling you, to keep continuously saying that you’re ducking Antonio Margarito?

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: I mean, Bob Arum is the type of guy, you know, I mean he’s grumpy. He’s an old lady’s grumpy, you know. But, I mean I’m just going to tell Bob, you know, thanks for every, you know thanks for our relationship. I mean in the past thanks for everything you done for me, you know, I appreciate you.

I won’t have nothing bad to say about you; I wish you nothing, but the best of luck in the future and I wish Todd DuBoef and all of DuBoefs and the whole Arum family good luck but as, I’m with Goossen Tutor and me and Dan’s going to take it to the next level. I mean he’s, I mean, man, that’s the real promoter.

When I was with Dan and I went back and done another fight with Bob, you didn’t see Dan bad-talk me or trash talk me. I mean Bob Arum has made a lot of money off me; I made a lot of money over there. I mean why would you, I mean a deal, some day you talk about us, it’s about being positive but then, you never see me talk about negative things and then once I started my training camp for this fight he told me I can use the top rank boxing gym and then in between, and if you don’t (inaudible), he told me that he’d kick me out of his boxing gym so you want me to fight your fighter but you don’t want me to work in your boxing gym. So, it’s obvious that you don’t want the fight.

CHUCK JOHNSON: So you’re no longer working at Top Rank Gym? Hello?

DAN GOOSSEN: No, he’s not, Chuck.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: Wait, Bob Arum would have, Dan can make Bob Arum an offer. Bob Arum can never make me an offer but Dan can make him an offer.

CHUCK JOHNSON: All right. All right.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: But you got to realize this. I’m an A level; I’m an A level opponent, OK? Oscar de la Hoya’s an A level; Floyd Mayweather’s an A level. I mean Margarito is a, he got, he got D level fighters. He had, so Bob Arum, he got D level fighters. You know without, you know without, be honest without Floyd Mayweather or Oscar de la Hoya, I mean what is Top Rank, honestly?

CHUCK JOHNSON: All right. So Margarito is not on your radar at all?

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: I’m not; you know I’m looking for a household name. I mean he’s a household; we need two household names.

CHUCK JOHNSON: OK. All right, Floyd. Appreciate it, man.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: No, come on. We got to realize this. 25,000 homes? If that. And then that’s, and that’s given them the benefit of the doubt. And I mean he’s supposed to be a Hispanic fighter with Hispanic fans. So, I mean, come on, man.

Now consider what Floyd Mayweather said just a few moments earlier, when he was defending his choice of handpicking the unheralded Henry Bruseles as an opponent… “I mean, the fight with Henry Bruseles – somebody had to give him a chance. You know, everybody gives – I mean, how will we ever know how good a person is till you give them a chance? Somebody had to give him that chance, so I gave him that chance.”
Which begs the question: Why won’t generous Floyd give or even verbally commit or promise to give Antonio Margarito any chances to show the world how good he is???

Final Thoughts: After witnessing all the double talk of the last 8 months, the $8 million offer three itmes, this exchange and all those youtube videos of Floyd stuttering almost incoherently when forced to talk about Margarito, I believe this is undeniable proof that Floyd is actually afraid of Margarito, he is actually struck by fear. Only rarely have you seen such blaringly obvious clues of fear seep out of the facade of bravado of a top pro fighter (Floyd Patterson vs. Sonny Liston, Tommy Burns vs. Jack Johnson, Morrade Hakkar vs. Bernard Hopkins, Tito Ortiz vs. Chuck Liddell, Joe Gatti vs. Terry Norris, Michael Spinks vs. Mike Tyson, etc.). There is no doubt now, Margarito is indeed Floyd’s BOGEYMAN.

The mere thought of Margarito alters Floyd’s thought and speech patterns. He makes little sense whenever he opens his mouth about Margarito. I completely believe the fight has already been determined. Floyd has been conquered by the Margarito mystique, the Margarito smile of 100% (GENUINE not MANUFACTURED) confidence, the Margarito arsenal of non-stop pressure and relentless savagry. The great Floyd Mayweather is incapable of how to effectively deal with issue of Margarito out of the ring and so it will transfer to confusion and indecision inside the ring, as it always does. IT ALWAYS DOES. It appears that Floyd’s mind does not function properly when it has to deal with the ghost of Margarito. Just wait and see what happens when the real beast is attacking him.

Boxing will have a new superstar from Mexico.

That is, if Floyd and the boxing powers-that-be ever give Margarito the chance to prove himself in a major marquee fight.

Contact Scoop: Mrbiofile@aol.com


Looks like he didn't want to give Margarito a chance

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. Malfunctions When Posed With Margarito Questions

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29.10.06 – By Scoop Malinowski: For those boxing fans who refused to believe that Floyd Mayweather could possibly be afraid of Antonio Margarito, I offer you this exchange during the recent Floyd Mayweather conference call:

CHUCK JOHNSON (USA Today): What do you think about Bob Arum calling you, to keep continuously saying that you’re ducking Antonio Margarito?

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: I mean, Bob Arum is the type of guy, you know, I mean he’s grumpy. He’s an old lady’s grumpy, you know. But, I mean I’m just going to tell Bob, you know, thanks for every, you know thanks for our relationship. I mean in the past thanks for everything you done for me, you know, I appreciate you.

I won’t have nothing bad to say about you; I wish you nothing, but the best of luck in the future and I wish Todd DuBoef and all of DuBoefs and the whole Arum family good luck but as, I’m with Goossen Tutor and me and Dan’s going to take it to the next level. I mean he’s, I mean, man, that’s the real promoter.

When I was with Dan and I went back and done another fight with Bob, you didn’t see Dan bad-talk me or trash talk me. I mean Bob Arum has made a lot of money off me; I made a lot of money over there. I mean why would you, I mean a deal, some day you talk about us, it’s about being positive but then, you never see me talk about negative things and then once I started my training camp for this fight he told me I can use the top rank boxing gym and then in between, and if you don’t (inaudible), he told me that he’d kick me out of his boxing gym so you want me to fight your fighter but you don’t want me to work in your boxing gym. So, it’s obvious that you don’t want the fight.

CHUCK JOHNSON: So you’re no longer working at Top Rank Gym? Hello?

DAN GOOSSEN: No, he’s not, Chuck.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: Wait, Bob Arum would have, Dan can make Bob Arum an offer. Bob Arum can never make me an offer but Dan can make him an offer.

CHUCK JOHNSON: All right. All right.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: But you got to realize this. I’m an A level; I’m an A level opponent, OK? Oscar de la Hoya’s an A level; Floyd Mayweather’s an A level. I mean Margarito is a, he got, he got D level fighters. He had, so Bob Arum, he got D level fighters. You know without, you know without, be honest without Floyd Mayweather or Oscar de la Hoya, I mean what is Top Rank, honestly?

CHUCK JOHNSON: All right. So Margarito is not on your radar at all?

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: I’m not; you know I’m looking for a household name. I mean he’s a household; we need two household names.

CHUCK JOHNSON: OK. All right, Floyd. Appreciate it, man.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: No, come on. We got to realize this. 25,000 homes? If that. And then that’s, and that’s given them the benefit of the doubt. And I mean he’s supposed to be a Hispanic fighter with Hispanic fans. So, I mean, come on, man.

Now consider what Floyd Mayweather said just a few moments earlier, when he was defending his choice of handpicking the unheralded Henry Bruseles as an opponent… “I mean, the fight with Henry Bruseles – somebody had to give him a chance. You know, everybody gives – I mean, how will we ever know how good a person is till you give them a chance? Somebody had to give him that chance, so I gave him that chance.”
Which begs the question: Why won’t generous Floyd give or even verbally commit or promise to give Antonio Margarito any chances to show the world how good he is???

Final Thoughts: After witnessing all the double talk of the last 8 months, the $8 million offer three itmes, this exchange and all those youtube videos of Floyd stuttering almost incoherently when forced to talk about Margarito, I believe this is undeniable proof that Floyd is actually afraid of Margarito, he is actually struck by fear. Only rarely have you seen such blaringly obvious clues of fear seep out of the facade of bravado of a top pro fighter (Floyd Patterson vs. Sonny Liston, Tommy Burns vs. Jack Johnson, Morrade Hakkar vs. Bernard Hopkins, Tito Ortiz vs. Chuck Liddell, Joe Gatti vs. Terry Norris, Michael Spinks vs. Mike Tyson, etc.). There is no doubt now, Margarito is indeed Floyd’s BOGEYMAN.

The mere thought of Margarito alters Floyd’s thought and speech patterns. He makes little sense whenever he opens his mouth about Margarito. I completely believe the fight has already been determined. Floyd has been conquered by the Margarito mystique, the Margarito smile of 100% (GENUINE not MANUFACTURED) confidence, the Margarito arsenal of non-stop pressure and relentless savagry. The great Floyd Mayweather is incapable of how to effectively deal with issue of Margarito out of the ring and so it will transfer to confusion and indecision inside the ring, as it always does. IT ALWAYS DOES. It appears that Floyd’s mind does not function properly when it has to deal with the ghost of Margarito. Just wait and see what happens when the real beast is attacking him.

Boxing will have a new superstar from Mexico.

That is, if Floyd and the boxing powers-that-be ever give Margarito the chance to prove himself in a major marquee fight.

Contact Scoop: Mrbiofile@aol.com


Looks like he didn't want to give Margarito a chance

Lol what. This was written in October 2006. He was about to fight Carlos Baldomir for the Lineal 147 lb championship of the world. WBO wasn't even considered a World title until Margarito lost it. And right after the Baldomir fight, he moved up to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Oscar is a 10x bigger name and a 10x more dangerous fighter than Margarito. How do you duck someone and fight someone better? Make that make sense

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Given how horrific Floyd/Baldymir was, I'd say its a safe bet to say he ducked Margarito for the easier fight.

Insert more Floyd excuses here:

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Paul Williams Blasts Floyd Mayweather: He Won't Fight Me

BY MICHAEL MARLEY
Published Thu Sep 23, 2010, 12:00 AM EDT

By Michael Marley

Paul Williams, in his 11th year in the professional boxing ring, is widely acknowledged as the world's third best fighter, pound for pound.

He's 6-3, freakishly tall and he's fighting WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez, also a power punching lefthander, in a Nov. 20 Atlantic City (HBO, not PPV) rematch simply because neither could persuade any other opponent to step up.

Their first fight was wild and wooly. Martinez got floored in the opening round and then the Argentinian decked the coltish PWill.

They traded hurt, they traded pain the rest of the way and, when it was over, Williams was tabbed the winner on two cards (119-110 and 115-113) while the third judge saw it a 114-114 draw.

This natural rematch comes a week after the Antonio Margarito-Manny Pacquiao HBO PPV bout and it figures to be equally engaging.

But, aside from Martinez, foes steer clear of Williams.

"They call him the 'Punisher' but Paul is the one who gets punished because these other guys won't fight him," manager-trainer George Peterson said at a New York press conference Thursday.

At age 29, with 40 pro bouts behind him, Williams' patience is growing thin.


"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd. I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."

That X-rated shot, obviously, is a reference to the Baby Mama drama which briefly sent Mayweather to jail and led to domestic battery charges in Las Vegas.

Williams and Peterson don't think that Al Haymon's status as adviser to them, and to Mayweather, is what keeps the fighters apart.

"I was in the barbershop in (Washington) D.C., the other day and the guys were talking about it. They respect Floyd's skills like I do but they were saying they know he won't ever fight me," Williams said.

"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."

Like many others, Williams thinks Mayweather's obsession is being undefeated.

"Floyd ranks himself with Ray Robinson, with Joe Louis, all these guys..but all those great guys, they all lost sometime. Mayweather won't take a hard fight, he won't take the chance of losing."

Peterson's assessment is similar.

"Pacquiao, he loves to fight. Mayweather is his own manager, he's a smart businessman. Paul is not old enough for Floyd to fight. Floyd likes to wait until a guy is old. Pacquiao is more gutsy than Floyd is," Peterson said.

Williams notes that the structure of boxing is that the best often don't fight the best.

"I can make 147 (pounds) for Floyd or for Manny if I have to and I would," Williams said. "But this isn't like baseball or football where the best teams are mandated to play each other. In boxing, these guys don't want to give me the shot."


Peterson said their frustration is that Williams is not yet a PPV attraction and that he hasn't been able to show his considerable skills against the upper echelon.

"If Paul could fight about every months, he would become a real monster in boxing. Then the fans would see how sensational he really can be.

"I think Paul, at this stage, is like Marvin Hagler was at one point. He is vicious, he strikes like a cobra but guys run away from fighting him like they did with Hagler," Peterson said.

With Pacman being almost 32 and Mayweather turning 34 next year, Williams feels he will get to the Number One P4P position without them.

But, instead of proclaiming himself as a ring great, he wants to prove it.


I"d like to be the best welterweight and the best middleweight. I'd like to be up there with Ray Leonard, with Tommy Hearns but I can't get there if I don't get the opportunity."

Williams understands the system.

"If the fans demand it, then HBO will hear them," Williams said. "Maybe HBO can make the top guys fight me. If it's demanded by the public, then maybe. But, when these guys fight and then take the microphone after they fight, who do they mention?

"You never hear them say my name, do you?"

Williams record is 39-1 with 27 KOs while Martinez is 45-2-2 with 24 knockouts.

Michael Marley is the national boxing examiner for examiner.com. To read more stories by Michael Marley, Click Here .

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If you don't dispute that they're the only fights that Floyd arguably lost, then how was he not dominant in his career?



Well, your verbiage was "at least" two ATG's in their prime, when it's really not "at least" two, is it? It's arguably two. Definitely not "at least" two.



Andre Ward didn't dominate Kovalev either time, he arguably lost the first one and wasn't dominant in the 2nd one either. Also was almost knocked out by Boone. So, no. He was definitely not more dominant than Floyd was


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1. the margins of victory... compare Ward's victories in the supermiddle tournament to Floyd's wins over fellow tough fighters like Castillo...
2. It is exactly as stated Dan
3. I explained the Kovalev situation... One more tme and that is it: "Kovalev was past Ward's prime and ideal fighting weight. Ward outclassed a group of some of the toughest fighters... Guys like Froch... did not just beat them.

[billeau2]

My post mentioned SIX fighters by name, none of which were James Toney, yet you pluck this (lack of) logic out of thin air to somehow mean my post was about Toney even though there is literally no mention of Toney

Still crying like a small baby. It's about time you took your tampon out.

didn't need to mention it James, mean Dan... It was implied in statement about Jones and ATG status!!! Ill let you figure it out ole chap!

[IronDanHamza]

1. the margins of victory... compare Ward's victories in the supermiddle tournament to Floyd's wins over fellow tough fighters like Castillo...

Andre Ward lost more rounds to Sakio Bika and Carl Froch than Mayweather lost in his entire 130 lb run. So once again your point is illogical.

2. It is exactly as stated Dan

Except it's not though.

You said he beat "at least" two prime ATG's when the reality is he fought at absolute most 2 prime ATG's.

You can argue he beat two prime ATG's, you can also argue he beat no prime ATG's.

Hence why he did not beat "at least" two prime ATG's.

3. I explained the Kovalev situation... One more tme and that is it: "Kovalev was past Ward's prime and ideal fighting weight. Ward outclassed a group of some of the toughest fighters... Guys like Froch... did not just beat them.

Ward was not past his prime at all when he arguably lost to Kovalev and if that's the logic you're using then Floyd was way past his prime when he fought Maidana.

It's just non-sensical as per usual. There's no consistency in your argument.

Consider revising.

[IronDanHamza]

didn't need to mention it James, mean Dan... It was implied in statement about Jones and ATG status!!! Ill let you figure it out ole chap!

You can assert your emotional claims all you want. I mentioned six fighters in that post and none of which were James Toney.

And for that point to even make sense about Roy Jones' ATG status I'd be talking about Bernard Hopkins just as much as I am Toney.

[billeau2]

Andre Ward lost more rounds to Sakio Bika and Carl Froch than Mayweather lost in his entire 130 lb run. So once again your point is illogical.



Except it's not though.

You said he beat "at least" two prime ATG's when the reality is he fought at absolute most 2 prime ATG's.

You can argue he beat two prime ATG's, you can also argue he beat no prime ATG's.

Hence why he did not beat "at least" two prime ATG's.




Ward was not past his prime at all when he arguably lost to Kovalev and if that's the logic you're using then Floyd was way past his prime when he fought Maidana.

It's just non-sensical as per usual. There's no consistency in your argument.

Consider revising.

1. Your using a specific metric (rounds won) to question the obvious dominance Ward had over his division and opponents during his tenure. No go...

2. Sorry James, not going into your ****** act where you just repeat the same ****** assertions over and over again... I explained about the ATG's... you just do not think Toney deserving... fine! I don't respect your opinion about Toney enough to care.

3. Ward was fighting light heavy and not his division where he had really distinguished himself, much like Floyd fightng at middle weight was not Floyd at 130...

I will only respond to points from you that are new to the argument because debating with you is a waste of time.

[billeau2]

You can assert your emotional claims all you want. I mentioned six fighters in that post and none of which were James Toney.

And for that point to even make sense about Roy Jones' ATG status I'd be talking about Bernard Hopkins just as much as I am Toney.

Emotional? ok James. Jones fought two guys at a range where they were in prime whom could be considered ATG fighters...McCallum was older when he fought Roy... That was all I said!