Floyd Mayweather Avoided Everyone Who Had A Physical Advantage Over Him ... Genius or Fraudster?

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    #161
    Originally posted by LeOoze

    Lol what. This was written in October 2006. He was about to fight Carlos Baldomir for the Lineal 147 lb championship of the world. WBO wasn't even considered a World title until Margarito lost it. And right after the Baldomir fight, he moved up to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Oscar is a 10x bigger name and a 10x more dangerous fighter than Margarito. How do you duck someone and fight someone better? Make that make sense
    And Floyd beat the 2 guys that beat Margarito, one of them knocked him out lol, and the irony what knocked out Maragrito Floyd took and came back to beat the sht out of Mosley.

    Haters are not very smart he spent all night searching only to get blown out in a sentence, he is still reeling from getting reamed yesterday. the goose is a human punching bag.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #162
      Originally posted by billeau2

      1. Your using a specific metric (rounds won) to question the obvious dominance Ward had over his division and opponents during his tenure. No go...
      No, I'm pointing out that Andre Ward lost more rounds vs Sakio Bika and Carl Froch than Mayweather did at his entire venture at 130 lbs.

      So, it makes your point illogical that Andre Ward was dominant and somehow Mayweather wasn't in comparison.

      It's wrong, flat out.

      Originally posted by billeau2
      2. Sorry James, not going into your ****** act where you just repeat the same ****** assertions over and over again... I explained about the ATG's... you just do not think Toney deserving... fine! I don't respect your opinion about Toney enough to care.
      What have I asserted? Do you know what an assertion is?

      You are the one who has made the assertion that Roy Jones beat "AT LEAST" (Key words being at least) two prime ATG's. When it's not the case that he beat "at least" two prime ATG's.

      You can argue he beat two ATG's in their primes, you could also argue he beat no ATG's in their primes.

      So, your statement is wrong again.

      Originally posted by billeau2
      3. Ward was fighting light heavy and not his division where he had really distinguished himself, much like Floyd fightng at middle weight was not Floyd at 130...

      I will only respond to points from you that are new to the argument because debating with you is a waste of time.
      Light Heavyweight was Andre Ward's 2nd Division, that's the equivalent to Mayweather fighting at 135 so I don't know where your brain has landed on that being the equivlent to Mayweather fighting at 160 which would be his 6th weight class, not his 2nd.

      And regardless it's irrelevant, Mayweather fought through 5 weight classes and those are the fights you're talking about that were "tough" and for some reason are making excuses for Ward's tough fight.

      If you're only going to include Andre Ward's first division then you'll have to compare it to Mayweather's first division. Who was more dominant? Mayweather by far.

      Making your third point, illogical once again. There's a running theme here is seems
      Last edited by IronDanHamza; 11-22-2022, 06:46 PM.

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        #163
        Originally posted by billeau2

        Emotional? ok James. Jones fought two guys at a range where they were in prime whom could be considered ATG fighters...McCallum was older when he fought Roy... That was all I said!
        Yes, clearly you are emotional because you've brought up James Toney once again for no apparent reason when I didn't even mention him at any point in my post.

        That's not all you said though, is it? You said; "He beat at least two prime ATG's", when that isn't true now is it?

        If you're retracting that statement and changing it to this one you've just said here;

        "Jones fought two guys at a range where they were in prime whom could be considered ATG fighters"

        Then that is a fair statement and one that can be debated. Your other one isn't.

        Well done, you have learned something today.

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          #164
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          No, I'm pointing out that Andre Ward lost more rounds vs Sakio Bika and Carl Froch than Mayweather did at his entire venture at 130 lbs.

          So, it makes your point illogical that Andre Ward was dominant and somehow Mayweather wasn't in comparison.

          It's wrong, flat out.



          What have I asserted? Do you know what an assertion is?

          You are the one who has made the assertion that Roy Jones beat "AT LEAST" (Key words being at least) two prime ATG's. When it's not the case that he beat "at least" two prime ATG's.

          You can argue he beat two ATG's in their primes, you could also argue he beat no ATG's in their primes.

          So, your statement is wrong again.



          Light Heavyweight was Andre Ward's 2nd Division, that's the equivalent to Mayweather fighting at 135 so I don't know where your brain has landed on that being the equivlent to Mayweather fighting at 160 which would be his 6th weight class, not his 2nd.

          And regardless it's irrelevant, Mayweather fought through 5 weight classes and those are the fights you're talking about that were "tough" and for some reason are making excuses for Ward's tough fight.

          If you're only going to include Andre Ward's first division then you'll have to compare it to Mayweather's first division. Who was more dominant? Mayweather by far.

          Making your third point, illogical once again. There's a running theme here is seems
          1. again...me no repeat !! I know what you argued and I responded... By James.

          2. Again... see previous posts for rebuttal, not repeating myself James... By By

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            #165
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Yes, clearly you are emotional because you've brought up James Toney once again for no apparent reason when I didn't even mention him at any point in my post.

            That's not all you said though, is it? You said; "He beat at least two prime ATG's", when that isn't true now is it?

            If you're retracting that statement and changing it to this one you've just said here;

            "Jones fought two guys at a range where they were in prime whom could be considered ATG fighters"

            Then that is a fair statement and one that can be debated. Your other one isn't.

            Well done, you have learned something today.
            Yes me veddy emotionally veddy hurt by your incriminations!!! Ouch ouch!!!
            As a matter of fact... I am |SO emotional? that I am not going to repeat myself again... Your a waste of time to debate because you just repeat and never consider the rebuttals... Lol Retracting hardly! By By Danny Boy!

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              #166
              Originally posted by billeau2

              1. again...me no repeat !! I know what you argued and I responded... By James.

              2. Again... see previous posts for rebuttal, not repeating myself James... By By
              It's actually spelled "Bye", you retard

              You have no rebuttal. You've made flawed, illogical points and have failed to address them when questioned.

              Run along now.

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                #167
                Originally posted by billeau2

                Yes me veddy emotionally veddy hurt by your incriminations!!! Ouch ouch!!!
                As a matter of fact... I am |SO emotional? that I am not going to repeat myself again... Your a waste of time to debate because you just repeat and never consider the rebuttals... Lol Retracting hardly! By By Danny Boy!
                Why else would you bring a fighter into the discussion that I haven't even mentioned?

                How is it hardly retracting when that's literally what you've just done? You changed your statement from "At least" to "whom could be considered".

                Nothing wrong with that retraction by the way but you've taken that as a negative thing for some reason.

                I think you should invest in a local Library card; you don't seem to understand what a lot of these words mean.

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                • billeau2
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  It's actually spelled "Bye", you retard

                  You have no rebuttal. You've made flawed, illogical points and have failed to address them when questioned.

                  Run along now.
                  I already did James... Now like I always do because of your obvious handicaps I am going to give you the last word Danny! So Bye now... use it wisely!

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Why else would you bring a fighter into the discussion that I haven't even mentioned?

                    How is it hardly retracting when that's literally what you've just done? You changed your statement from "At least" to "whom could be considered".

                    Nothing wrong with that retraction by the way but you've taken that as a negative thing for some reason.

                    I think you should invest in a local Library card; you don't seem to understand what a lot of these words mean.
                    Learn how to debate Danny... Again: I have a whole process for dealing with your spiteful and wrong headed rebuttals: Im going to give you the last word now... Buy the wy I can always tell when its a clear "win" for me when you resort to spelling errors!!! Thank you for confirmation. Bye Danny

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      I already did James... Now like I always do because of your obvious handicaps I am going to give you the last word Danny! So Bye now... use it wisely!
                      You literally have not addressed or made a single rebuttal to any of the counter points made to your flawed arguments.

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