Comments Thread For: Welcome Back, Deontay. But You're Still Not a Hall of Famer

[A.B Counterhooks]

Wilder would have to regain title ,defend it and or unify against another HW champ to maybe be considered to enter canastota ...that or lose his life in mysterious circumstances like it happen with Gatti(hope not) but right now..he aint no HOF thats fo sho.

[DeeMoney]

Respectfully, this is going full-ret.ard.

What name fighter of his era besides Rid**** Bowe did Tyson not fight? He would have fought Bowe had he not gone to jail.

On his resume from his era: Trevor Berbick, Bonecrusher Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Toney Tucker, Michael Spinks, Tony Tubbs, Frank Bruno, Carl Williams, Frans Botha, Larry Holmes, Razor Ruddock

He also bit the great Evander Holyfield's ear clean off.

I've seen this before, you get a fighter whose prime was in one era, but then gets called out for not winning in the later era. As you wrote, Tyson beat all heavyweight comers in the mid 80s; that was his era. He is a HOFer

[MoneyKing]

I see the wilder fan club are making mild threats to the writer of this article. You will be talking about Tyson Fury until the day you die. Deontay Wilder should thank Tyson Fury for the lifestyle he now has. And no, he shouldn't be in the hall of fame. Tyson Fury is a goat.

Down from the bar
There's a platform stage
People primpin' pimping
Sharp as razor blades
In from the street
While the little people stare
It's all about the style
And the clothes you wear
Chorus
He's a fly guy, no one can deny
He's a fly guy, ain't nothing 'bout him shy
He's a fly guy, don't even bat an eye
He's a fly guy

[Sid-Knee]

A lot of people remember Butterbean too. They love him. Even non-boxing fans share his fights on FaceBook and Instagram.

So what? HOF is supposed to be the best of the best. Artuto was never remotely that. Not even close.

Gatti and Wilder both completely mediocre fighters with 2-3 decent wins. Arguing one deserves in more than the other is splitting hairs.

If Gatti is in, a lot ****tier fighters than belt-holder with like 10 defenses should be in.

I agree that Gatti shouldn't be in the hall. But Gatti does actually have a few world class wins in Patterson, Ruelas and Dorin. Wilder doesn't have a single one. He has 3 wins that are decent fringe world level in the two over Ortiz and Brezeale. But Gatti has a better level of decent fringe wins in Ward, Branco, Sanabria, Millett and Damgaard.

Anyone thinking Wilder is anywhere near to being in is beyond delusion. These mindsets are the reason boxing is in the swamp. I'm glad the Olympics got rid of the trash to retain integrity of sport. At no point should it be even considered to be allowed back until the corruption has been cleaned out.

[Sid-Knee]

It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of best boxers.

Being famous isn't to be taken literally in this sense. It means the greatest and the most accomplished. That isn't Wilder in any world other than the alternative reality his fans exist in.

[Sid-Knee]

You can’t compare eras when discussing HoF. Wilder fought in a weak era for HWs but is that his fault? Should he have pushed harder for a Klitscho and/or Joshua fight, sure, but for the most part he fought whoever was available and knocked them out (except Fury of course). Wilders a HoF. Would he have been one in the prime of the klitcho era (or any other era), maybe not but we will never know.

Wilder avoided the best of the division. And to say he fought who was available is too extreme. He ducked them left right and centre. I have never seen a coward on his level before.

Sorry, but you're retelling of history is in fact lies. Nothing more.

Had Wilder fought the best out there, he would have been wiped out much sooner. But he and his team made sure that wasn't going to happen. The Fury fights only happened at first due to thinking he was shot. It badly backfired on them. Had they ducked the rematches too, it would have been over anyway for them. They had to go through with them. Wilder was then annihilated in those two fights.

[Sid-Knee]

KO AJ in england and cause an Eddie Hearn breakdown ala Frank maloney, then KO him again in the rematch and then give a post fight 'my wife might need a wheelchair' type interview ala Tony Thompson - pricey 2 and then we can start talking..

Wilder is scared stiff to fight AJ in the US. But you think the coward is now going to travel when he had no wish to before for huge money? Haha.

Fantasy level thinking.

[Sid-Knee]

Exactly.

Klitschko's best win is David freakin' Haye. Wilder would knock Haye to the moon in a single round.

I love Wladimir, but his resume is not good at all - Yet no one's going to argue that he's not a hall of famer.

The point of the article is that Wilder's resume doesn't warrant HOF entry: the resumes of existing HOF'ers says the opposite. Almost anyone gets in. Wilder will get in too.

Wilder would KO Haye in a round when he couldn't do that to bums?

You're delusional. Wilder was even too scared to fight Haye when he came back before the Bellew fights. A prime Haye destroys any version of that bum. It isn't even a fight.

[Sid-Knee]

lol, this article sounds like it was written by the common forum man here who can't stand Wilder. That being said, it's not that I necessarily disagree with any of it. I'm not sure anyone thought Wilder was HOF worthy. Not unless perhaps he toppled Fury.

Regardless of losing to Fury, it is no way diminished the excitement Wilder brings and at the end of the day, that is what Wilder is all about. He brings excitement to the division. Who cares if he's a loud mouth, it's part of what makes him fun to watch, whether he gets KO'd or KO's his opponent.

"I'm not sure anyone thought Wilder was HOF worthy"

Do you even read these threads you're on?

[Sid-Knee]

I can easily see him going in the hall of fame. The author claims that no one can make a case against him being better than Fury and the Klitys. Both of those names were known drug cheats. If you actually care about steroids in sports than he was better for never cheating. And the folks who broke the rules certainly should not be ingrained in the hall of fame unless that is what you want boxing to be about. Which personally I am fine with drug cheats being the best, otherwise we need to kick ole Muahmmad Ali out of the HOF as well. And we can't have that.

When was Klitschko on steroids?

Did you not see the lean muscle Wilder put on for the third Fury fight? You're telling me he was clean?