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  • #51
    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

    Regardless of your opinions. He’s still a top 2 guy. He WILL KO Usyk. He can’t beat Fury and everyone else can’t take his shot for 12 rounds. Usyk included.
    Wilder was never top 5. He isn't in the top 10 now. Many would end Wilder more violently than Fury did. Wilder and his team know this. They won't ever attempt it.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      Wilder would KO Haye in a round when he couldn't do that to bums?

      You're delusional. Wilder was even too scared to fight Haye when he came back before the Bellew fights. A prime Haye destroys any version of that bum. It isn't even a fight.
      Nah, you're the delusional one. Haye's best win at heavyweight is Derek Chisora. He couldn't compete with actual heavyweights of size - Valuev was a freakshow.

      I was a fan, but he's too small. Wilder windmills Haye out of the ring in one round. Joshua and Fury take him out quick too. Any version. Too small.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by paulf View Post

        Nah, you're the delusional one. Haye's best win at heavyweight is Derek Chisora. He couldn't compete with actual heavyweights of size - Valuev was a freakshow.

        I was a fan, but he's too small. Wilder windmills Haye out of the ring in one round. Joshua and Fury take him out quick too. Any version. Too small.
        Wilder and Haye weigh the same as each other. Difference is, Haye is world class and has skills. Wilder isn't and doesn't. It's a mismatch in favour of Haye. But love the fallacy when talking about Valuev. Haha.

        It's OK though. I've seen enough of your comments to know delusion when i see it. 1 round even though he didn't come close to doing this to many bums and struggled badly until finding a shot late. Haha.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

          Wilder was never top 5. He isn't in the top 10 now. Many would end Wilder more violently than Fury did. Wilder and his team know this. They won't ever attempt it.
          Give me a break. I cant stand watching wilder fight cause HE CANT.
          That said, theirs NO ONE that can take his punch right now other than Fury. No one has Fury’s BALL SACK, discipline, size, athleticism and ring generalship.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            Wilder and Haye weigh the same as each other. Difference is, Haye is world class and has skills. Wilder isn't and doesn't. It's a mismatch in favour of Haye. But love the fallacy when talking about Valuev. Haha.

            It's OK though. I've seen enough of your comments to know delusion when i see it. 1 round even though he didn't come close to doing this to many bums and struggled badly until finding a shot late. Haha.
            One round.

            Haye was not a heavyweight - he was a guy that was in the right place at the right time.

            Which is why he got KO'd twice by ****in' Tony Bellew in his comeback.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              "I'm not sure anyone thought Wilder was HOF worthy"

              Do you even read these threads you're on?
              Can you provide more context to your lack of making any sense?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

                Give me a break. I cant stand watching wilder fight cause HE CANT.
                That said, theirs NO ONE that can take his punch right now other than Fury. No one has Fury’s BALL SACK, discipline, size, athleticism and ring generalship.
                You should look over Wilder's fights and see how many of Wilder's shots they could take. Then look at their capabilities to take a shot. But they still took plenty. Then look at how easy Wilder is to hit. Then ask yourself can Wilder take much of those shots the world level fighters can dish out. Then look at how mentally weak Wilder is and how he goes about fights with better fighters and doesn't look to do much. All this spells another bad night at the office.

                If Wilder and his team believed anything other than what they do, wouldn't they have built him up much better by taking on the credible fighters out there and got all the credit for those wins? Huh? Instead they took on those who were outside of the top 50 with no one calling for those slops. They did this repeatedly even though they had fans demanding the other fights.

                Think about it. Don't let silly thoughts get in the way of logic.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by paulf View Post

                  Nah, you're the delusional one. Haye's best win at heavyweight is Derek Chisora. He couldn't compete with actual heavyweights of size - Valuev was a freakshow.

                  I was a fan, but he's too small. Wilder windmills Haye out of the ring in one round. Joshua and Fury take him out quick too. Any version. Too small.
                  Wladimir had a Haye with a broken toe on the foot he needed to push off from. At no point could he even rock Haye, let alone drop or stop him. But a fighter who struggles to get a mass of bums out of there until late is going to take out what would be by far his greatest win and first world level fighter with a mass of skill over him in the 1st round?

                  And you're saying i'm delusional? You need to actually think before you type. That Chisora is the one who Wilder laughably ran away from after he answered Wilder's call out on Twitter only to then make laughable excuses to why he couldn't fight him. A Chisora who would be his biggest win by far should he win. Valuev, who Haye dominated, would be Wilder's biggest win by far should he be capable of beating him also.

                  Haye wreaks Wilder and makes it look so easy. Wilder wouldn't be able to stop that fast right over the top nor have the defence to take the edge off it. He'd walk straight into it. He wouldn't be able to do anything other than get taken out with ease. It's a mismatch. You have seen enough to know that by now. But if you're still struggling on this level, there's no hope for you. Sorry. It's actually preposterous. Haye was a very good world class fighter with a much better resume at Heavyweight. Forget about his Cruiserweight achievements. Just his Heavyweight achievements are much better than Wilder's. And Wilder had a lot more fights at the weight. Think about it.
                  Last edited by Sid-Knee; 10-13-2022, 03:14 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by ELPacman View Post

                    Can you provide more context to your lack of making any sense?
                    I'm quoting you. You said no one believes Wilder is really a HOF level fighter. It was obvious to what i was replying to. There's plenty of people on here claiming exactly that. On this very thread and on this site.

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                    • #60
                      Hmmm, I think 41KO’s out of 42 fights contradicts your bullsheeit.

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