Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard??

[StarshipTrooper]

For the record, Malone's 76ers smoke Shaq's Lakers in a 4-0 sweep. Kobe's an undisciplined street baller like 99% of NBA players today and you should appologize for even thinking of him in the same sentence as Dr. J. The 76ers WEAKEST starter, Bobby Jones, was better than any Laker starter not named Shaq or Kobe. And THAT'S the bottom line.....cuz Stone Poet says so.

Poet

[wpink1]

Learn boxing. Ok i will learn and give u bottom lines

Bottom line is Marvin Hagler was a name ONLY at the time. Stop with the statistics. Hagler was extremely slow in that fight. Bottom line is had Ray chose to fight Michael Nunn, Julian Jackson, Mike McCallum after Hagler he would have gotten knocked out.

Bottom line is Quincy Taylor knocked his out out in sparring and his trainers were like daaaaaamn wonder what Hagler would do to him. What they didn't know at the time was Hagler was much much slower.

Non BIG GAME fighters would have given 1987 SRL more problems because they were young, active, speed. Thats why he chose to go on the senior citizens tour. Then in 1991 he was like i want to test my skills.

I wonder why he said that. Maybe because he knew his previous opponents were old and slow. Including Hagler.

Couple of things idiot...

If Marvin hagler was name only..then that was one hell of a name. When was the last time Mr. name only lost prior to that fight. Who where his biggest wins....Could it be he just beat his best 3 opponents, all by ko. Was not this name only person, the UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.. So Ray could have done like mayeather does,,fight a feather weight and tell him to move up to middlewight, but he decided to fight a REAL champion and a fighter at that weight, unlike what Mayweather does...

Sincy your targeting 32 year old Hagler, who on Mayweathers resume compares to Hagler. Hmm again you target ray, but who on Mayweathers resume compares.

Now I agree when ray came back , he did go on the seniors tour. He himself was shot, due to inactivity etc. Now want to harp on Ray after he was retired, which most intelligent people do not judge, just like we do not look at Ali vs Holmes, or chavez in his latest fights, or Roy Jones vs Calzaghe, or sugar Ray robinson in his last fights. Unfortunately you dont know boxing, and to try to prove a point, that Ray82 everyone here is laughing how ****** you sound....

[jrosales13]

I am not going to read all this pages. But, Ray Leonard beats Floyd. Is this even a debate?

[wpink1]

WPINK

Question? Since you give Ray so much credit for fighting Hagler who in my opinion was washed up then why not fight these guys soon after.

WOW BOXING DIGEST... We have heard it now....This ****** idiot,,,Just called out ray leoanrd for ducking apponents..A floyd gayweather fan,,is calling out Ray leonard for ducking opponents..

You are freaking hilarious..Honestly your sitting at home, saying..How can I ask the most ****** question possible....

Couple of things idiot. Name one fighter who has fought and beat better opposition than Ray leonard did, since Ali. NAME ONE.....

Now since we are comparing resumes...

Duran vs Castillo edge Duran
Hearns vs Corrales edge hearns
Hagler vs dlh edge hagler
Benetiz vs judah edge Benetiz.

Lets see Hatton,jmm, etc.... who else... You want to talk about resume..

Now your talking about a fighter who had to lay off for 5 years due to injury, and coming back not fighting the younger fighters at Middleweight. Hmmmm How about this idiot. How about Peak Mayweather instead of fighting true welters he retires, and comesback a welter but fights a featherweight. You talk about nunn, etc...Mayweather is active, was active etc..and he is ducking

COTTO
MOSLEY
MARGERITO
WILLIAMS
BERTO
CLOTTERY

You want to talk about a fighter waiting til another fighter was shot...What about Mayweather (active mayweather) avoiding every top fighter from 140-154, BACKING OUT OF A SIGNED CONTRACT WITH WINKY WRIGHT, getting punked in his face by Margerito, and waiting to fight a DLH that was 36 (like it or not that is his age...live with it) who had nothing left. Unlike hagler who was the undisputed champion, unlike hagler who had not lost in 10 years (dlh had lost 1/2 of his most recent fights, getting a giveme decisin vs sturm)

You honestly have to be kidding. me. How about telling your boy to fight a true welterweight...Here is a link you should show to your punk ass boy...If it is blanked out..it stands for e astside boxing.. This forum *'s out the east side part.. You my ignorant friend are a joke.

http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=21429&more=1#

[RayLeonard82]

For the record, Malone's 76ers smoke Shaq's Lakers in a 4-0 sweep. Kobe's an undisciplined street baller like 99% of NBA players today and you should appologize for even thinking of him in the same sentence as Dr. J. The 76ers WEAKEST starter, Bobby Jones, was better than any Laker starter not named Shaq or Kobe. And THAT'S the bottom line.....cuz Stone Poet says so.

Poet

LOL and very funny stuff there. Dr J can't even dribble with his left hand just like Jerry West. Many of the players from the 70s and early 80s dribble with 1 hand and go between there legs for change of direction. No cross over moves to get change of direction. He was great for his era and would actually be solid in this era cause of his athletic ability but small forwards today are just as athletic with better ball handling skills.

Please don't compare Dr to Kobe when his ball handling skills were low budget. Kobe is a better ball handler, post up player, mid range shooter, 3 point shooter, DEFENDER.

Moses was 6-10 like 260. Shaq 7-1 320 and more athletic.

2001 Lakers 4-1 over 83 76ers and any 80s Lakers team

[RayLeonard82]

WPINK

I give Ray credit for winning 1 superfight against a fighter at there peak and that was Hearns in 1981. But Tommy was 144 when he weighed in for the fight and weight drained and not exactly the Tommy who was strong and knocked out Duran in 2 rounds in 1984.

Duran fight - To much controversy. Why is Duran quitting when Ray isnt even dominating. Ray is just running aroung the ring. 2 minutes of no punching. Outboxing someone is moving and sticking. Not moving and moving and moving.

Hagler fight - Like i said before Hagler was old and slow and Hagler won the fight anyway. Ray gets credit for hanging in there but he really lost

[wpink1]

WPINK

I give Ray credit for winning 1 superfight against a fighter at there peak and that was Hearns in 1981. But Tommy was 144 when he weighed in for the fight and weight drained and not exactly the Tommy who was strong and knocked out Duran in 2 rounds in 1984.

Duran fight - To much controversy. Why is Duran quitting when Ray isnt even dominating. Ray is just running aroung the ring. 2 minutes of no punching. Outboxing someone is moving and sticking. Not moving and moving and moving.

Hagler fight - Like i said before Hagler was old and slow and Hagler won the fight anyway. Ray gets credit for hanging in there but he really lost

Idiot...Tommy fought hearns at jr middleweight limit. What is your point. He was 32-0 30 ko's at welter..get it Welter weight. He was the WBA welterweight champion of the world..What the **** other excuse your gonna whine about.. Generally idiot..when your fighting for the undisputed championship (something your hero cant spell) or generally when your a welterweight..you fight welterweights...right. Not featherweights. or jr welter,....etc.

Tommy was fresh in round 6 and 7 wasnt he..Why not tell us about that.

Your a hoe..I have asked you to answer a simply question and your punkass, can't. cause your scared to admit the facts Mayweather has not beaten any solid welterweights...

Tell us idiot..Who at welter, did Mayweather beat that is great, peak and at their natural weight... Tell us......

[Bigmacpoper]

RayLeonard82 isn't a Leonard fan nor is he a particularly big Mayweather fan,he's a fan of the glass jawed wonder Terry Norris.

RayLeonard82 is a poster on youtube and E*stside called "Piglatinsuperstar.Go to any Ray Leonard video and you will find him attempting to discredit Ray Leonard.

[RayLeonard82]

Idiot...Tommy fought hearns at jr middleweight limit. What is your point. He was 32-0 30 ko's at welter..get it Welter weight. He was the WBA welterweight champion of the world..What the **** other excuse your gonna whine about.. Generally idiot..when your fighting for the undisputed championship (something your hero cant spell) or generally when your a welterweight..you fight welterweights...right. Not featherweights. or jr welter,....etc.

Tommy was fresh in round 6 and 7 wasnt he..Why not tell us about that.

Your a hoe..I have asked you to answer a simply question and your punkass, can't. cause your scared to admit the facts Mayweather has not beaten any solid welterweights...

Tell us idiot..Who at welter, did Mayweather beat that is great, peak and at their natural weight... Tell us......

Dude give it a rest and agree to disagree. You think SRL beats Floyd inside 5 rounds and makes his corner stop the fight and wave in the towel even though Ray didn't KO Akub Kalule, Larry Bonds, Benitez inside 5 rounds.

SRL is one of the most overated boxers in history.

Floyd is the more skilled fighter PERIOD.

Your weak excuse of Ray was layed off when he fought Kevin Howard in 1984. Floyd was off 2 years also and faced a better opponent in Marquez and won with ease.

Fact is as Floyd's FATHER said in 1999 about SRL. He said Ray's defense was his legs. My son can defend close range and still make you miss. Archie Moore. James Toney style. OLD SCHOOL

WPINK...Like u said lets stick to facts

1. Duran - Fact is 1980s rematch Ray said i wanted to fight him within 6 months because i knew he got out of shape between fights.

2 Hagler - Ray was in the crowd for the Mugabi fight. He said exactly. I was counting on Haglers lost speed. Meaning deterioation.

To me that sounds like a dude trying to get glory the CHEAP WAY

Fact is Duran in shape MOTIVATED put the whippin on Ray Leonard and Hagler despite much slower still won that fight. I suggest you watch Hagler from the early 80s and look at the snap on his shots and speed. BIG DIFFERENCE. That's why Ray ducked him and waited. Ray fooled you, but not me.

He had 1 big victory and thats Hearns. so i guess Barkley is all time great also cause he knocked Tommy out also.

[Stickman]

I am not going to read all this pages. But, Ray Leonard beats Floyd. Is this even a debate?

Not really, but this Rayleonard82 moron has Mayweather's **** stuck in his throat, all the way up to his ballsack, and Wpink has been trying to get the ******, cumguzzling ***** to spit it out.....unsuccessfully, I'm afraid.