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  • champion4ever
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    #41
    Originally posted by jonnyc420
    Ortiz/Joshua makes sense since they are both coming off losses. Ortiz has nothing to offer Tyson Fury, at least if Fury fights AJ it's a big UK fight that makes sense financially.
    Nah, Joshua doesn’t need to fight Ortiz. Luis is a shot fighter now who needs to retire.

    Andy Ruiz should have stopped him in their last fight but strangely he decided to carry him.

    Both King Kong’s legs and punch resistance are gone.

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      #42
      Originally posted by JoeMan
      Don't know how many people would want to see Ortiz again with another established name. He hardly threw substantial punches in his last fight. He simply didn't deliver. All he did was to pose the entire fight. It's not entertaining to watch.
      It’s called getting old man!

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        #43
        Originally posted by Murray Kelm
        It seems like Cuban fighters are the boxers who are most willing to fight. Lara and Ugas are always looking for fights as well. I think it comes from growing up in a restricted country, these guy's no the value of money.
        Also, when you factor in that they turn professional very late in their careers trying to flee their country.

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          #44
          Originally posted by JoeMan

          Fair points. But what is most likely to happen is Luis Ortiz will just be ignored by almost every HW because there is nothing there for them in a Luis fight, especially when he lost his last fight and didn't perform well. So all this grandstanding will just be that -- grandstanding. Nothing more, nothing less. There are more interesting fights out there than another Ortiz fight.

          He will most likely be frozen out and forced to retire.
          He will become a journeyman status for young and up and coming heavyweight prospects because his skills have badly diminished.

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            #45
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            It pains me to say this but Luis Ortiz’ days as a title contender are over.

            He is a gatekeeper status now. His body is beginning to show signs of an aging fighter.

            He is a washed out fighter at the present moment. Very sadly and unfortunately he is going to be used as a stepping stone for the younger heavyweight prospects coming up.

            I wish that he would retire but he can’t because he needs the money.
            Why does he need the money ?

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              #46
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              He will become a journeyman status for young and up and coming heavyweight prospects because his skills have badly diminished.
              It’s not his skills that have diminished. He can still box. He proved that vs Ruiz, who he won rds against.

              What is shot is his punch resistance and his legs. It’ll be hard for him to win any fights vs top tier heavyweights because he gets knocked down too easily and then he’s down on the scorecards. So far, he can recover quite well from being hurt. It’s just that his legs give out from underneath him for a few seconds.

              It doesn’t really have anything to do with his skill level. He’s still more skilled than most heavyweights. It’s just a matter of him being old!

              He’ll never win a championship though and will probably never get another chance to.

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                #47
                Originally posted by denium
                Why would lineal king Fury fight this bum?
                Because he just took a loss and Fury would be all over it now unlike when Fury said he was to dangerous to fight a year or so ago .

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666

                  Because he just took a loss and Fury would be all over it now unlike when Fury said he was to dangerous to fight a year or so ago .
                  Good to see you back juggernutter.

                  Are you still breaking legs for the mafia?

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                    #49
                    Ortiz looking for 1 more L but a worth while one. I don’t blame him, he wants that retirement money.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      Nah, Joshua doesn’t need to fight Ortiz. Luis is a shot fighter now who needs to retire.

                      Andy Ruiz should have stopped him in their last fight but strangely he decided to carry him.

                      Both King Kong’s legs and punch resistance are gone.
                      Again, not saying I want to see the fight, but saying saying the angle it could be sold from. He's still top 10 and so is Joshua so not an out of the world possibility. I like you, have no interest in watching Ortiz fight anyone again.

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