This Era has a solid No. 2 Heavyweight - And it Ain't Anthony Joshua!

[kafkod]

I still like Fury as the #1 Heavyweight of this generation and Deontay Wilder as the #2. But as of right now, at least; a new fact has emerged. In their historic trilogy both fighters suffered great punishment. But as of right now, based on the words of the two fighters just today, it appears that their wars have pushed Fury to a declaration of retirement; but not Wilder!!

https://www.************.com/2022/07...or-retirement/

This further supports the idea that Wilder is no worse than #2. And by very, very little.

Fury, it is widely believed, will end his retirement if Joshua can redeem his reputation and reverse his latest loss. After that, Joshua would again be presented with another chance to fulfill his promise, as the leading heavyweight of this generation, should he go on to earn a win over Fury late this or early next year.
Regardless of what happens in Usyk-Joshua II, neither fighter involved there has any opportunity to unseat Wilder as modern day nunber II. None.
Joshua and Usyk are only competing against themselves for a number 3 spot, and with Usyk's two supremely important opponents Joshua and Mairis Briedis BOTH having lost their last fight, a win in their fight holds nothing to gain ground on either Fury or Wilder; only a collection of empty figurehead belts and a possiby shop at real champion Fury.

Trust me, if Fury retires without beating the winner of Usyk/AJ he will not become a legend like Ali and his trilogy with Wilder will have no more historical significance than Patterson vs Johansson 1 2 & 3.

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******est thread i've ever read

I can’t believe it went this long it really should have ended after your post , bill wouldn’t have got himself in a pickle either . .

[Willow The Wisp]

Ali made his legend by beating Liston, one of the most feared HW champs ever, then coming back after 3 years out and beating, not just Frazier, but also Foreman and all the top HW contenders of his era. ALI FOUGHT THEM ALL AND SO DID FRAZIER. Imagine if, after beating Ali in their first fight, Smoking Joe had said, "I just beat The Greatest, I don't need to fight that bum Foreman. I'm fighting Ali again next" Then after winning the rematch, same thing from Ali - Nobody wants to see me school a big, slow fool like Foreman. What would be the point of that? Everybody knows me and Joe are the best in the division. I'm gonna fight Frazier one last time then retire" v

I agree, and nobody can argue that Fury has plenty of opportunities for unfinished businesses at heavyweight right now, and if he retired he would be leaving the game early. If he did, he'd probably be doing better in his 60s than either Frazier or Ali did. People who truly respect the fighters have no problem respecting that. I think it's fair to say, in fact; that Fury, Wilder, Joshua, Usyk, Ruiz, Ortiz, Parker and a fair number of others active right now ALL have some unfinished business! One other thing that Id mention for our collective consideration. From Fury's perspective, NONE of the contenders We've mentioned present like Big George Foreman did in 1973, in terms of threat, accomplishments or deservedness.

[Willow The Wisp]

I can’t believe it went this long it really should have ended after your post , bill wouldn’t have got himself in a pickle either . .

Simple people are VITAL to the fabric of society.....but not for the thinking part. Not ever. Doesn't work. This, is a thinking person's thread. This is why you're OUT. No offense.