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Yes. He performs mostly kickboxing in MMA. His boxing is also good. 50/50.Last edited by Silence; 03-21-2022, 04:43 AM.Comment
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So you're a saying an MMA fighter who is fully aware the other guy is a boxer, would still decide to box with the boxer? why would they?
You see predominantly punches on the street because A) its untrained people and B) its all you need 99% of the time in that environment. An MMA fighter isnt going to be using anything but punches in a street fight either, unless they run into someone who can force them to do something else, why put in extra effort if it isnt needed?
Its like when people cant get their head around punches being the most common technique in an MMA fight. "oh if MMA is so good why do most fights end from punches" etc. When its because its two people who are relatively evenly matched in both striking and grappling, so they default to the most high percentage/low risk and low commitment technique ie punches.
Context is important.
Okay sure, lets use this as an example since it was a title fight and probably FOTY so far, i'll breajk it down and you tell me if you see technique and skill in it or not.
^ effective use of kicks to shut down punches. Look at the timing and anticipation on the second one especially. Figueiredo comes forward with punches, frames, steps back and pretty much baits Moreno to respond then perfectly times the kick, shuts down the advance and catches him off balance.
^ Not much to explain there, but...you're telling me that isnt "artistry" and isnt skilled? really?
^ Looks like sloppy chaotic shyt to the untrained eye, then you pay attention and break it down. Moreno tries to slip behind Figueiredo and take him down, but Figueiredo quickly rotates the right way to get out, look where his hands go as he does this, hes controlling Morenos wrists so he cant be grabbed and ensures the escape, Moreno then gives up, goes high and sneaks a left hook in as they disengage.
Notice how Figueiredo lands when he goes down? then Moreno quickly tries to get the choke but Figuereido reverses and they're right back up again. Hint: watch Figueiredos left leg.
The punch exchanges are sloppy, admittedly. But Moreno ****ing recovery rolls out of that ****, that aint easy, especially if you're hurt.
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So you're a saying an MMA fighter who is fully aware the other guy is a boxer, would still decide to box with the boxer? why would they?
You see predominantly punches on the street because A) its untrained people and B) its all you need 99% of the time in that environment. An MMA fighter isnt going to be using anything but punches in a street fight either, unless they run into someone who can force them to do something else, why put in extra effort if it isnt needed?
Its like when people cant get their head around punches being the most common technique in an MMA fight. "oh if MMA is so good why do most fights end from punches" etc. When its because its two people who are relatively evenly matched in both striking and grappling, so they default to the most high percentage/low risk and low commitment technique ie punches.
Context is important.
Okay sure, lets use this as an example since it was a title fight and probably FOTY so far, i'll breajk it down and you tell me if you see technique and skill in it or not.
^ effective use of kicks to shut down punches. Look at the timing and anticipation on the second one especially. Figueiredo comes forward with punches, frames, steps back and pretty much baits Moreno to respond then perfectly times the kick, shuts down the advance and catches him off balance.
^ Not much to explain there, but...you're telling me that isnt "artistry" and isnt skilled? really?
^ Looks like sloppy chaotic shyt to the untrained eye, then you pay attention and break it down. Moreno tries to slip behind Figueiredo and take him down, but Figueiredo quickly rotates the right way to get out, look where his hands go as he does this, hes controlling Morenos wrists so he cant be grabbed and ensures the escape, Moreno then gives up, goes high and sneaks a left hook in as they disengage.
Notice how Figueiredo lands when he goes down? then Moreno quickly tries to get the choke but Figuereido reverses and they're right back up again. Hint: watch Figueiredos left leg.
The punch exchanges are sloppy, admittedly. But Moreno ****ing recovery rolls out of that ****, that aint easy, especially if you're hurt.
19.99999999999 x out of 20, it will be BOXING MOVES used in street fights
Sure, since there are NO ABSOLUTES in life (besides death and taxes), maybe 1 out of 100 MMA fight will show signs of whatever it is they are masters of.
19.999999999999999 x out of 20, an MMA fight is decided on who lands the 1st PUNCH.
Again, not 20 x out of 20
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You're incredibly stubborn arent you? ****ing hell
Draw your picture however you want
19.99999999999 x out of 20, it will be BOXING MOVES used in street fights
Sure, since there are NO ABSOLUTES in life (besides death and taxes), maybe 1 out of 100 MMA fight will show signs of whatever it is they are masters of.
19.999999999999999 x out of 20, an MMA fight is decided on who lands the 1st PUNCH.
Again, not 20 x out of 20
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Originally posted by TMLT87
For ****s sake I just explained to you in detail why. How is this not sinking in?
Okay, i'll try again one more time, Canelo is squaring up to you in a club, all of a sudden, Matrix style, you "download" the fighting abilities of a national wrestling champion who also has a BJJ black belt (ie Usman), allowing you to do everything he can do. Canelo comes forward, what do you do next?
Can't wait for the next MMA guy to step into a boxing ring.Comment
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Why are some of you going back and forth with an obvious r'tard, this Bodybags fella has had a class or two of cardio boxing and thinks he's part of the boxing fraternity. Absolute grade A muppet.Comment
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