Mayweather: "Mosley Beat De La Hoya on Steroids"

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  • Dave Rado
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    #171
    Originally posted by Al Haymon
    You may have info that I don't. Where did he say that? Would you link me please.

    thx.
    Try reading the article this thread is attached to. He makes it clear he doesn't want to fight Mosley, who is currently the #1 Welterweight.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #172
      Originally posted by -GR -
      So Pac isn't a tough fight? Amazing how JMM is considered unworthy yet their weights are similar. Difference is one still cut the other doesn't.
      Pac has proved himself at 140. He's a natural Jnr Welterweight now.

      JMM looked physically out of his depth even at 135, and was only able to win at that weight due to his exceptional skills.

      Every fighter has a maximum weight at which they can perform at their best, no one can gain weight indefinitely and still be as competitive. Pac's maximum peak weight appears to be 140, wherease JMM's appears to be 130.

      Originally posted by -GR -
      If Floyd came back and fought Clottey everyone would say Clottey ain't beat no one and he's not ****. It's the same thing every time.
      Clottey would be a far more credible tune-up than Marquez, because he's a top Welterweight, and a better fighter than any Welterweight Floyd has beaten so far. But the real fights he needs to take are against Cotto and Mosley.

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      • JAB5239
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        #173
        Originally posted by -GR -
        Bull****. When Tony and FLoyd was a possibility he had a loss to a bad fighter recently. Plus his best win was Cintron then. The he lost to an unknown P Will. If Floyd had beat Tony then he wouldn't get any credit for it.
        Lmao!! But you are so quick to give Floyd credit for fighting old, slow and no power Baldomir who had just beaten the notorious front runner and under achiever Judah.

        And Hatton weighs more than Floyd at 140 then Floyd did at 154 (weighed 148 on fight night vs DLH). The weight class is an excuse. Only reason he looked bad vs Collazo was because he couldn't bully him.
        Floyd called up a smaller fighter who had previously looked unimpressive at 147 and moved back to 140 because of it. You can't change the facts.

        DLH then was still a formidable fighter and was coming off destroying Mayorga. I don't see how you couldn't call that fighting the best.

        Oscar was a part time fight and was not the best fighter at 154. Thats another fact for you.

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          #174
          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          Baldo had a belt Floyd needed. Don't play "the daft laddie". We all know that was about the hardware.
          Really? What did he need it for?
          He had offered that date to Shane. That was the "toothache" date.
          Can you prove this was not a valid medical excuse to pass on that particular date?

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            #175
            Originally posted by Al Haymon
            Would you please elaborate? Who are you referring to?
            Do I really have to make a list of top welters Margs was fighting and Floyd wasn't?

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              #176
              Floyd didn't call up Hatton. Hatton did. IF Hatton had lost at 147 he'd still have a belt. Maybe you shouldn't be so naive and look at weight classes as a formality. Hatton weighs more at JWW than FLoyd at JMW. Those are facts. Weight class had zero to do with it. You people act like FLoyd cuts weight.

              And the old slow Baldomir was the #1 fighter, who beat the #1. Judah was still a top fighter. Funny how you **** on those wins yet I bet you want him to fight Clottey whose best win is a past prime Judah, and that was only a technical decision.

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                #177
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                Do I really have to make a list of top welters Margs was fighting and Floyd wasn't?
                Tony rematching Cintron is akin to Floyd rematching Gatti. It was pointless. Where is the criticism of Tony ducking P Will in a rematch who offered more money than the Cintron fight and a chance to get his title back?

                Tony lost to a bum and had one good win before he fought Cotto.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Al Haymon
                  Anyway, instead of seeing Floyd fight Pito cardona or Antonio Diaz or Steve Forbes, I get to see him fight an actual top guy. Now, that guy is NOT a welterweight. But in his returning fight, i would much prefer a GREAT small man to a middling big man.

                  Just my perspective there.
                  That would be fair enough and fine and dandy, if he hadn't spoiled it now by making it clear that he doesn't want to fight the #1 Welterweight.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by -GR -
                    And the old slow Baldomir was the #1 fighter, who beat the #1. Judah was still a top fighter. Funny how you **** on those wins .
                    No one criticises Floyd for fighting Boldomir or Judah, only for failing to defend his title against a single legitimate Welterweight contender, even though several contenders subsequently came along who were and are considerably better than either Boldomir or Judah were.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-16-2009, 03:12 AM.

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                    • MissDeeCole
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                      #180
                      is this mayweathers new hunch now?

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