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  • -GR -
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    #141
    Berto isn't ranked higher because Clottey fought TOny and Cotto close. Collazo is a better win than Judah at this stage. Berto should be ranked higher

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    • Al Haymon
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      #142
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      And Mosley was not trying to fight Hatton.
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      Yes, he was. Mosley listed the guys he would fight, and Hatton was on that short list.

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      Is mark's first paragraph pure fiction?

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      • Dave Rado
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        #143
        Originally posted by Al Haymon
        Floyd's reasoning is that Shane doesn't bring enough money. And SM on his resume at this point wouldn't do that much for his career.
        If beating the #1 Welterweight in the world wouldn't do much for his career, then he may as well retire again now. That's a truly ridiculous statement.

        He hasn't fought a single top Welterweight since winning his lineal title against a very mediocre champion three years ago. Since then, a whole crop of Welterweights have come along who are greatly superior to the mediocre champion he beat, making it one of the most competitive divisions in the sport. And he doesn't want to fight any of them. No great boxer in history has ever had that attitude.

        Did Ali ever refuse to fight anyone because they didn't bring enough money? And in any case, Shane at this point would certainly bring far more money than Marquez.

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        • Al Haymon
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          #144
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          Berto isn't ranked higher because Clottey fought TOny and Cotto close. Collazo is a better win than Judah at this stage. Berto should be ranked higher
          How about Cotto ranked behind Shane. Cotto has wins over the #1 and #3 guys. And #6 and #9.

          Yes. Shane beat a guy that Cotto lost to. But Cotto has the heads-up victory over Shane.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Al Haymon
            Floyd's reasoning is that Shane doesn't bring enough money. And SM on his resume at this point wouldn't do that much for his career.
            A terrible excuse from a guy who already has more money than most boxers could dream of. Mosley would net him AT LEAST as much as Marquez and he would be fighting, at the worst, the second best welterweight in the world.

            Floyd just doesn't want to fight a real threat in my opinion. Not because he is scared physically, but because he knows a loss would send his market value down the toilet.

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            • Al Haymon
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              #146
              Originally posted by Dave Rado
              Shane at this point would certainly bring far more money than Marquez.
              You keep saying that, and it just isn't true. It just is not. No offense to you, or to Shane.

              SHane would not activate a large demographic like the Mex pop. Shane has never been a commercial fighter.

              When Shane was charged with carrying an event, he had a low-rated WCB fight at Mandalay Bay. The attendance was reported at 5,000-ish. in actuality, it was lower than that. Even his MSG fight w Cotto didn't do big nums.

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              • Dave Rado
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                #147
                Originally posted by Al Haymon
                Yes, he was. Mosley listed the guys he would fight, and Hatton was on that short list.

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                Is mark's first paragraph pure fiction?
                It only meant in the event of Hatton beating Pac -ie. he wanted to fight the Hatton-Pac winner, because of the payday. But he also said in the same article that he wanted to fight Cotto. As I've already said, he thinks he deserves one big payday before he retires, but he's not using that as an excuse to avoid fighting top Welters. He's fighting top Welters as well. He's already fought Cotto and Margarito and is about to fight Clottey. All three of those fighters are much better than either Boldomir or Judah.
                Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-16-2009, 02:13 AM.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Al Haymon
                  You keep saying that, and it just isn't true. It just is not. No offense to you, or to Shane.

                  SHane would not activate a large demographic like the Mex pop. Shane has never been a commercial fighter.

                  When Shane was charged with carrying an event, he had a low-rated WCB fight at Mandalay Bay. The attendance was reported at 5,000-ish. in actuality, it was lower than that. Even his MSG fight w Cotto didn't do big nums.
                  Marquez has never been a commercial fighter either. And Mosley would not be charged with carrying the event against Mayweather, so that's irrelevant.

                  Mayweather-Mosley would be a huge fight, far bigger than the Marquez fight, because a lot of people would believe that Mosley might win. No one thinks Mayweather might lose to Marquez. As a sporting contest it's a bust flush.

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                  • Al Haymon
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    He's already fought Cotto and Margarito and is about to fight Clottey. All three of those fighters are much better than either Boldomir or Judah.
                    See what I mean by you selectively using the rankings? What was Baldomir ranked at the time?


                    goose/gander.

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                    • Al Haymon
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      Marquez has never been a commercial fighter either. And Mosley would not be charged with carrying the event against Mayweather, so that's irrelevant.

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                      Right. And if I'm going to carry an event, I get to do what I want and fight who I want.

                      I have another question to ask you, and will do it in the next post.

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