Mayweather: "Mosley Beat De La Hoya on Steroids"

[JAB5239]

How? Floyd went to 154 and beat DLH for 20 mill. No fighter would turn that down. Then he fought an undefeated top10 p4p Hatton (after years of Hatton turning him down). How weren't those tough fights?

When Tony called out DLH after he beat Cotto where was the outrage?

I got no problem with Floyd making the DLH fight. It was a payday though and not for the sake of fighting the best. Hatton had already shown and said his best weight wasn't 147, but it was another huge money fight so he moved on up.

Oscar was the first to say he wanted the winner of Margs-Cotto. when Tony won he wanted some of that green just like every other fighter. Difference is, he had been taking on all the best in his division.

[-GR -]

I didn't t mind the tune-up when he first announced it, because I thought it was a tune-up and that he would fight a top Welter in his next fight - or if he wants to fight Pac first - then in his next but one fight. But for him to make it clear now that he doesn't want to fight the top Welters makes me lose all respect for him, and as a result, and I no longer see this as a tune-up. He simply doesn't seem to want any tough fights against anybody who could test him.

So Pac isn't a tough fight? Amazing how JMM is considered unworthy yet their weights are similar. Difference is one still cut the other doesn't.

If Floyd came back and fought Clottey everyone would say Clottey ain't beat no one and he's not ****. It's the same thing every time.

[Burner]

So why don't those guys get lambasted for not making the fight? Why don't people criticize Cotto for turning Floyd down at 140 or Mosley doing it twice? It's just bias.

Exactly..........

[Al Haymon]

I didn't t mind the tune-up when he first announced it, because I thought it was a tune-up and that he would fight a top Welter in his next fight - or if he wants to fight Pac first - then in his next but one fight. But for him to make it clear now that he doesn't want to fight the top Welters makes me lose all respect for him, and as a result, and I no longer see this as a tune-up. He simply doesn't seem to want any tough fights against anybody who could test him.

You may have info that I don't. Where did he say that? Would you link me please.

thx


Here's how i view this fight: I expected that Floyd would take a tune-up before the real action. Which is why it was surprising to me to hear both Pac and Mosley talk about FMJ fights knowing that neither of them would take an FMJ fight coming off a 2 yr layoff.

Anyway, instead of seeing Floyd fight Pito cardona or Antonio Diaz or Steve Forbes, I get to see him fight an actual top guy. Now, that guy is NOT a welterweight. But in his returning fight, i would much prefer a GREAT small man to a middling big man.

Just my perspective there.

[JAB5239]

So why don't those guys get lambasted for not making the fight? Why don't people criticize Cotto for turning Floyd down at 140 or Mosley doing it twice? It's just bias.

Cotto was green and said so. It still amuses me that Floyd wanted to fight hium then, but as soon as Cotto thought he was ready Floyd said he needed to get a bigger fan base. Lol, talk about an excuse.

Floyds a welterweight. Mosley is the top welter in the world. Don't you find it a bit curious that Floyd would fight Baldomir, but he won't fight the much better Fighter in Shane now?

[-GR -]

I got no problem with Floyd making the DLH fight. It was a payday though and not for the sake of fighting the best. Hatton had already shown and said his best weight wasn't 147, but it was another huge money fight so he moved on up.

Oscar was the first to say he wanted the winner of Margs-Cotto. when Tony won he wanted some of that green just like every other fighter. Difference is, he had been taking on all the best in his division.

Bull****. When Tony and FLoyd was a possibility he had a loss to a bad fighter recently. Plus his best win was Cintron then. The he lost to an unknown P Will. If Floyd had beat Tony then he wouldn't get any credit for it.

And Hatton weighs more than Floyd at 140 then Floyd did at 154 (weighed 148 on fight night vs DLH). The weight class is an excuse. Only reason he looked bad vs Collazo was because he couldn't bully him.

DLH then was still a formidable fighter and was coming off destroying Mayorga. I don't see how you couldn't call that fighting the best.

[Al Haymon]

Oscar was the first to say he wanted the winner of Margs-Cotto. when Tony won he wanted some of that green just like every other fighter. Difference is, he had been taking on all the best in his division.

Would you please elaborate? Who are you referring to?

[-GR -]

Floyds a welterweight. Mosley is the top welter in the world. Don't you find it a bit curious that Floyd would fight Baldomir, but he won't fight the much better Fighter in Shane now?

Because Shane wasn't #1?

I guarantee if Arum hardballs Floyd he'll fight Mosley, if he wins. Everyone with common sense knows that Pac, Cotto, and Mosley are the next opponents for him. Plus Cotto is the easiest fight there.

[Al Haymon]

Cotto was green and said so. It still amuses me that Floyd wanted to fight hium then, but as soon as Cotto thought he was ready Floyd said he needed to get a bigger fan base. Lol, talk about an excuse.

Floyds a welterweight. Mosley is the top welter in the world. Don't you find it a bit curious that Floyd would fight Baldomir, but he won't fight the much better Fighter in Shane now?

Baldo had a belt Floyd needed. Don't play "the daft laddie". We all know that was about the hardware.

He had offered that date to Shane. That was the "toothache" date.

[Dave Rado]

So why don't those guys get lambasted for not making the fight? Why don't people criticize Cotto for turning Floyd down at 140 or Mosley doing it twice? It's just bias.

Cotto was a young unproved prospect when he was at 140, not a live threat to Floyd. He became a live threat when he moved up to Welterweight, got more experience and proved himself. The time they should have fought was when Cotto had proved himself at Welterweight, not before. The best time would have been just after Cotto beat Mosley. But Mayweather wasn't interested.

And I've already been through the Mosley thing in this thread. To criticise him for moving up two weight divisions to fight and beat the P4P #2 in the sport at the time is simply insane.

And in the other case, (a) Mosley and Mayweather were not in the same weight division as each other at the time, so there was no reason why he should be expected to fight a Welterweight, and (b) he didn't want to get in his boss's way, because De La Hoya wanted to fight Mayweather.

That simply is not comparable with Mayweather making it clear now that he doesn't want to fight the top fighter in his own weight class, which makes him look pathetic.