Mayweather: "Mosley Beat De La Hoya on Steroids"

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  • JAB5239
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    #191
    Originally posted by Al Haymon
    I have the proof, champ. Just FYI.

    In fact, i posted earlier today.
    Im all ears, lets hear it.

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    • Al Haymon
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      #192
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      Im all ears, lets hear it.

      Please see 2:00





      Please see 2:15:




      http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/13/sp...ts-it-all.html


      Arum has made an offer to Mosley to fight Mayweather at a weight of 137 pounds. But the 27-year-old Mosley has outgrown the 135-pound division and has been struggling to make the weight. He was dehydrated against John Brown in his last fight in April in which Mosley stopped Brown. Even though he got down to 135 pounds at the weigh-in for the fight, he ballooned to 151 pounds by the time he entered the ring.



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      "I can't make these guys fight," said an exasperated Mayweather, who had hoped to face Wright in what would have been one of the year's most intriguing bouts instead of what will turn out to be nothing more than a glorified exhibition.

      Former lightweight, welterweight and super welterweight champion Shane Mosley was offered a bout against Mayweather, but declined.

      Mosley said he wanted a couple of tuneups, but said he'd fight Mayweather next year.

      Kostya Tszyu isn't sure he'll fight again. His conqueror, Ricky Hatton, turned Mayweather down before money was even discussed.

      Oscar De La Hoya has mentioned Mayweather, but said he won't consider him until late 2006.

      That's around the time when Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said he'd be willing to put young and promising Miguel Cotto in against Mayweather.

      There were others, including undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah, but they couldn't come close to contract terms.

      And boxers know there are two ways to get out of a fight: simply by saying no, as Hatton did, or by asking for more money than promoters will be able to pay.

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      • Al Haymon
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        #193
        Originally posted by JAB5239
        Im all ears, lets hear it.
        Jabs, No offense, but you'e just not a rational, factual poster. You go by pure emotion. And then resorted to insults when you felt intellectually cornered. That's why I took a seat on the sidelines to watch.

        Everybody needs a gameplan...but that was an odd choice.

        It's all love, though. have a great nite.

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          #194
          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          Please see 2:00





          Please see 2:15:




          http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/13/sp...ts-it-all.html


          Arum has made an offer to Mosley to fight Mayweather at a weight of 137 pounds. But the 27-year-old Mosley has outgrown the 135-pound division and has been struggling to make the weight. He was dehydrated against John Brown in his last fight in April in which Mosley stopped Brown. Even though he got down to 135 pounds at the weigh-in for the fight, he ballooned to 151 pounds by the time he entered the ring.



          The Las Vegas Review-Journal is Nevada's most trusted source for local news, Las Vegas sports, business news, gaming news, entertainment news and more.



          "I can't make these guys fight," said an exasperated Mayweather, who had hoped to face Wright in what would have been one of the year's most intriguing bouts instead of what will turn out to be nothing more than a glorified exhibition.

          Former lightweight, welterweight and super welterweight champion Shane Mosley was offered a bout against Mayweather, but declined.

          Mosley said he wanted a couple of tuneups, but said he'd fight Mayweather next year.

          Kostya Tszyu isn't sure he'll fight again. His conqueror, Ricky Hatton, turned Mayweather down before money was even discussed.

          Oscar De La Hoya has mentioned Mayweather, but said he won't consider him until late 2006.

          That's around the time when Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said he'd be willing to put young and promising Miguel Cotto in against Mayweather.

          There were others, including undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah, but they couldn't come close to contract terms.

          And boxers know there are two ways to get out of a fight: simply by saying no, as Hatton did, or by asking for more money than promoters will be able to pay.


          Where is the proof that Shane didn't have a valid medical reason not to fight Floyd when he declined because of his tooth?

          Where is the proof Shane didn't want to fight Floyd at all?

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            #195
            Originally posted by Al Haymon
            Jabs, No offense, but you'e just not a rational, factual poster. You go by pure emotion. And then resorted to insults when you felt intellectually cornered. That's why I took a seat on the sidelines to watch.

            Everybody needs a gameplan...but that was an odd choice.

            It's all love, though. have a great nite.
            Thats funny because I would bet most who have posted with me on this site would disagree with you.

            2 more things.....When did I insult you? Are you going to make a bet about who does the better PPV numbers?

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              #196
              Originally posted by Al Haymon
              Well I don't know why you send the first link of Paul Williams. I was on your side on that one lol... I even said nobody wants to fight Williams except for Martinez and Dzinziruk. And, now maybe Pavlik but I won't believe it until they are in the ring.

              But, for the Berto link. Dude Berto was offered the fight for the Dec 5 Date on HBO. And, HBO offer sheet was like 3mil. Berto 750k while Mosley get the rest. Berto turned it down cuz he wanted more money. Saying he got 750k for Collazo and Urango. Shane would be a bigger fight so it had be more money. But HBO did not have the budget to pay more. So Berto turned it down. The link you send me was in March. For a fight in the summer. After Shane couldn't get the big names. He was willing to fight Berto in Dec. But, Berto turned it down. So Mosley turned to Clottey.

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                #197
                Originally posted by Al Haymon
                Floyd's reasoning is that Shane doesn't bring enough money. And SM on his resume at this point wouldn't do that much for his career.
                I do honestly believe Shane brings more money than JMM. I also believe a victory over Shane, who is looked as the #1 WW, would be much better on Floyd resume than a victory over JMM.

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by -GR -
                  Berto isn't ranked higher because Clottey fought TOny and Cotto close. Collazo is a better win than Judah at this stage. Berto should be ranked higher
                  Oh now sir I disagree. There is no way Berto should be ranked higher than Clottey.

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Al Haymon
                    You keep saying that, and it just isn't true. It just is not. No offense to you, or to Shane.

                    SHane would not activate a large demographic like the Mex pop. Shane has never been a commercial fighter.

                    When Shane was charged with carrying an event, he had a low-rated WCB fight at Mandalay Bay. The attendance was reported at 5,000-ish. in actuality, it was lower than that. Even his MSG fight w Cotto didn't do big nums.
                    JMM does not even get a large demographic of the Mex pop. He just dosen't even though JMM is great he does not get the respect or popularity he deserves from his own people. Jorge Arce right now is more beloved and more popular in the Mex pop. Shane would do more numbers against Floyd than what JMM would do.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Burner
                      Floytds never ducked anyone if thats what your implying.
                      He has before. Spadafora, Johnston, he even turned down his highest payday at that time and paid money in order not to fight Margarito.
                      Last edited by jrosales13; 09-16-2009, 05:27 PM.

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