Usyk v Whyte on its way

[moochi]

This **** wouldn't surprise me from Hearn, trying to sabotage Fury and Frank.

[Nash out]

Whyte and Sky are definitely in contact. I think it’s simply a case of Whyte realising he has far greater financial prospects with the Sky model rather than DAZN. People need to realise Sky is what made AJ, Whyte etc PPV stars not Eddie. I think DAZN have realised that now having seen how poor their numbers are in the UK. That’s not me being anti-Eddie either, Sky made Naz, Hatton etc PPV stars not Frank, it’s how it’s always worked. Sky is the hub of both multimedia and sports in the UK.

As for Usyk fighting Whyte, I just can’t see it. Usyk would be ****** not to force AJ into a mega-money rematch that the people behind AJ want no part of IMO and if AJ does forego his rematch then why waste time with Whyte? You’d obviously just go straight into a mega-money matchup with Fury for all the marbles.

Spot on about DAZN UK. As I’ve said from day one with DAZN UK, without football they’re essentially irrelevant. At this point how does DAZN UK differ from what Boxnation were doing 10 years ago? Boxnation actually had a better product portfolio too despite a considerably lower budget, they were consistently showing Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Canelo, Hopkins, Khan etc.

Sky is a massive star maker, that's for sure. I have Sky on pretty much all day, but with Dazn, it's never on except when I tune in for the fights. I was thinking, do you think that if Dazn's app was on sky that would attract more people? I have Netflix app on Sky and pay for it as part of my Sky package and watch Netflix a great deal, but if I didn't have it as part of my Sky, and had to jump through a hoop or two to put it on, I'd watch it less.

Another thing with the Dazn app, if I watch it on my laptop, it works perfectly, but when I play it through my smart TV, it goes off every few minutes. So I'm always watching Dazn on my Laptop, when I'd prefer my big TV. I might try it through my Playstation and see how that works.

But with Sky, and big fights, it feels like there is a constant build up and reminders that something big is happening, but as I say with Dazn, it's just tune in for the fight, and sure, the hardcore fans will, but it's not going to attract casuals and new fans like the way Sky does. Nash out.

[deathofaclown]

Whyte is a coward and a bum. He wants nothing to do with the Gypsy King.

Deadline day and still nothing

maybe he will sign, But I still stand by my belief that he wants to win a world title via politics out of the ring rather than actually beat a top fighter.

[786]

Interesting theory that I hope isn't true. I don't have much interest in an Usyk-Whyte fight, it belongs in that thread about knowing the result of a fight before it happens and this has Usyk UD written all over it.

It also means that Fury will fight Kabayel or another "tune-up" opponent, AJ will be waiting for Usyk-Whyte to conclude and the division is on hold again. Another year before an undisputed fight gets talked about again until the next promoter-caused delays.

For me, this is a worst case scenario that I hope doesn't happen.

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Deadline day and still nothing

maybe he will sign, But I still stand by my belief that he wants to win a world title via politics out of the ring rather than actually beat a top fighter.

It's common knowledge that Hearn has offered him an "alternative path" to a title.

Dillian will pull out, and then try to claim some bs about getting offered a slave contract so he can fool all the Matchroom casuals.

[hhh1200]

Actually this would make sense for Fury if it was true. 1. He'd get his normal 2 cherry fights between a big fight. 2. Gives AJ a turn up and 8 months minimum with a new trainer 3. Odds increase AJ gets the belts back and keeps the money following in the HW. 4. Fury Vs AJ happens and Fury gets the 200 mil deal for 2 fights with A vs. family diner purses with Usyk.

Funny how people cried about Fury vs Vlad and AJ Ruiz II but Usyk is nothing more than a dancing Lomachenko in the HW division. Yeah, I watch the HWs for pitty-pat dance 12 round fights.

[The plunger man]

Well if it’s true then I think Hearn is paying them back for playing games with Joshua last year......also I know for a fact usyks team are very wary of fury and his team when then reneged on the klitchcko rematch which was signed and sealed......so maybe usyk’s team don’t trust arum and Warren and would rather do business with matchroom who they have a mutual trustworthy relationship with.......I wouldn’t trust Warren and arum one bit if I’m being honest but we will see.......we will see

[Scopedog]

BS, I know boxing is a clown show but how would anyone gain anything from this? Usyk wipes the floor with Whyte, and it doesn't get him any closer to unifying the belts like he wants to, especially if he still has to rematch Joshua after. If he doesn't, then Joshua's essentially lost his chance to regain his belts, and he's free to do what then, fight Fury? Sure that fight would make some OK money but that arrangement would put Fury in the driving seat in negotiations because Joshua has no belts and is coming off an upset loss. That doesn't really benefit Fury that much either, because while that fight would make some decent money it doesn't have the same allure if he's the only one with any silverware at stake. The only arrangement that makes any sense is for Usyk and Joshua to take care of their rematch and for the winner to fight Fury for the undisputed crown. Whyte's only relevancy to the arrangement is that it allows for Fury to discharge his mandatory obligations to the WBC and stay busy while Usyk and Joshua sort things out.

[REDEEMER]

Thoughts?

Would Whyte still have to fight one of the three? Joshua, Fury or Usyk?
That would wreck Fury... He hates having to "reset" Im remembering his situation with David Haye. I guess he would get an easier fight, not sure if that is the best for him.

For Joshua its probably better. He shouldn't necessarily be running back to fight Usyk so soon.

For Usyk, well potentially could it come down to Joshua stepping aside and allowing him to fight Fury?

Just a lot of possible outcomes here lol.

I would imagine Whyte gets a title shot with Usyk,I can’t see him accepting a non title fight if Furys not next unless he’s guaranteed the winner of A.J and Usyk ?

The deadlines today I believe but there coukd also be extensions if arbitration is in the wAy I imagine Whyte uses it if he could I still don’t be
that 80/20 split will stick but we’ve seen crazier things like a promo used undisputed not taking place but that’s was a few reasons .

Fury never attempted any step aside offers to Wilder and Arum flat out lied and never mentioned him not terminating any contractual agreements with Wilder which ultimately was the problem.

That’s beating a dead horse though this situation is very simple it’s a split of 80/20 that’s it and one I can’t see sticking by any means it’s why they set a deadline before arbitration is up . I can say it because it’s a U.K fight the fight cannot be done without Whyte so it’s a really strange should we see a final ruling of 80/20 .

I just hope the fight gets signed and it doesn’t go there because now with winning purse bids they probably can’t afford any more then the split they insisted on and would then fork over a larger amount to Whyte where Fury they didn’t need to and still owe him whatever share he agreed to ?



I would disagree with the A.J situation, even if he lost to Usyk again it barely damages his drawing power ,should he win he creates even more a driving force behind him . Not every heavyweight champion has lost and come back to face every guy they lost to ,this is why I find it hard to believe Whyte gets Usyk but again I’ve seen strange things on here ,yes it’s a good chess move but it only really helps Whyte who I still believe gives Fury fits and Fury insisting on a Ngannou fight has another potential over look of an opponent all over it ,with Whyte that’s not exactly a good idea .

[4truth]

I'd much rather see Parker avenge his tainted loss to Whyte and have Usyk try to repeat against Joshua, no small feat.