Who’s the most disappointing boxer in the last decade?

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  • Haka
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    #41
    Loma, getting robbed took the wind out of his sails. He is getting shutout and ignored since that robbery for good reason ...
    It doesn't help that he is relatively small for his weight and is an aging fighter relying on this athleticism.
    Last edited by Haka; 02-13-2022, 04:44 AM.

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    • Toffee
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      #42
      I'm torn between AJ, Wilder and Fury.

      AJ because he was potentially great and is willing to fight Unifications and defend belts. That Ruiz defeat really knocked him down a peg. If he avoids that defeat (and it was very avoidable) then the last few years could have been very different. I suspect he does fall short now, but there was a time when I thought we finally had the guy who was both willing and able to be a great Undisputed champion.

      Wilder because he held that belt for years and never fought anyone worthwhile. The Joshua fight was so fkin obvious. I still pin that one on Wilder... and he's pretty much admitted it.

      And Fury because on ability he really is potentially great. Yet he's found ways to screw up, taint wins, hold up the division. Since he won the titles he's fought, what, 7 times? Either against relative nobodies or the same guy. Since he won it a second time he's fought once in two years... and only when he was forced to. He's the least 'champion' like champion I can imagine.

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      • Earl-Hickey
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        #43
        For me AJ

        I followed him for a lot of his amateur career, he did get a robbery over savon in the Olympics but he managed to get two legit wins over Cammarale and had other impressive amateur wins.

        What was interesting was that he was so novicey that he was beating these exceptionally skilled guys on basically raw talent and physicality.

        When he turned pro he was very impressive, he won a world title VERY early on which was impressive even if it was only Charles Martin he beat.

        They hot shotted to the klitschko fight which I thought was far too soon as AJ was still basically a prospect with a belt and very inexperienced, klitschko was past his prime but he had only been out fiddled by fury, had decades of experience on AJ and was more used to big occasions. That win was impressive from AJ.

        But the klitschko fight, instead of being a springboard was the peak of his career. He never really improved his technique since then and mentally he regressed and has never been the same.

        I knew it as early as the Parker fight, AJ definatley had it in him to stop Parker, who himself was in a slump at that point in his career with Kevin Barry.

        He was laboured and out of ideas vs Takam and couldn't find any way to vary his approach which was also alarming.

        Povetkin I thought was an OK performance.

        Against Ruiz Jr, it was what it was, I still think he was somewhat out of sorts for that fight but regardless of that, after the first knockdown I thought that was embarrasing, but Ruiz went on to do very little for several rounds and I figured AJ (who had dropped Ruiz heavily) would recover and lay it on Ruiz and stop him klitschko style, but instead he folded.

        Ruiz 2 was really worrying as he treated Ruiz like a prime Mike Tyson when he had it in him to stop Ruiz if he fought slightly more sensibly but still let heavy leather go.

        Pulev fight was really unimpressive.

        Against Usyk I saw alarm bells going in due to Joshuas poor form, and also Usyk snuck in Andy Ruiz style and was all smiles and nobody was taking him seriously, it was like Ruiz all over. I said in the whole run up AJ needs to fight like the old AJ to win this one and attack this guy with confidence, use his size and try and smash him to bits, instead AJ was cagey and nervous from the opening bell, dumped all his energy being anxious and just put in a shocking performance.

        As it stands, AJ has had good wins and you can't take away his world title wins, honestly he had a good career and goes down as the second most accomplished UK heavyweight, but considering his meteoric rise and how I thought he'd turn out, his career has been a big dissapointment.

        He still has time to turn it around, I still don't think Oleksandyr Usyk represents this impossible opponent who AJ simply could never beat, but mentally I don't think he has it in him to go in there with the right attitude to pull it off. AJ you are gonna get hit, he's a cruiser, yes he's quicker than you but you hit way harder mate, if you have to bite down on the gumshield, take one to give one and have a ****ing fight with the guy, sobeit.

        I don't see it though, I think he's done.

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        • El_Maldito_Rey
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          #44
          Andrade - mid 30s, never unified, hasn't fought a world champ
          Charla - over 30, hasn't unified, a thug and criminal that has more news making fights outside the ring
          Stank Davis - protected. About to hit 30 and still no worthy fight. Ducked Lomachenko
          Broner - no explanation needed
          Wilder - KO'd cans until he got exposed by Fury.

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          • Scopedog
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            #45
            I think Broner has been the one who fell short of the hype in the most emphatic way, but to say that that's "disappointing" would be incorrect. On the contrary his fall from grace was incredibly cathartic.

            My actual pick is Russel Jr. His talent was honestly insane, even after losing to Loma he probably had enough to really establish himself as a truly great featherweight if he took the right kind of fights and won them, but he was honestly the tempo of his career was so glacial and his level of opposition so average that he never even got close to fulfilling his potential. The difference in career trajectory between Loma and Russel after they fought couldn't have been more stark. Loma went division hopping, fighting top champions and contenders back to back to back and leapfrogging to the top of the pound for pound rankings while Russel did nothing but tread water. I know that Loma beat Russell so it's only natural that he'd have a better springboard to a successful career, but it's not enough to explain the sheer width of the yawning chasm between them in terms of career success. It's not like Russell got dominated in that fight, and while I do think Loma is more talented I actually don't think it's by that much. You can only explain the difference through Russell's disappointing lack of ambition. Maybe the recent loss to Magsayo that he picked up will be good for him and light a much-needed fire under him, but he's not getting any younger and it's probably too late for him to achieve even a fraction of what I think he would have been capable of if he really applied himself earlier on.

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              #46
              Originally posted by tonysoprano
              Fury has done pretty much nothing to justify his own inflated opinion of himself.

              All while embarassing the sport with his fake mental health issues, drunken rants and looking like a beached whale.

              Makes a joke of boxing this fat **** is anywhere near the top of his division.
              I know this is a troll post and that I'm potentially taking the bait like an idiot here, but to me Fury is the precise opposite of what the OP is asking for. When Fury was still mostly fighting on Channel 5 in the UK I'd watch his fights relatively frequently and never thought he'd amount to anything more than a footnote to the careers of better fighters. I remember watching Fury getting floored by Pajkic and Cunningham and then fumble his way to wins both times, then turning to the friends and family members I was watching with and conclude that he was nothing more than a big body with few skills and even less brains. Everyone would agree with me. If I were to go back in time to one of those moments and say that actually he'd end up dethroning Wlad and cementing himself as the division kingpin past me would have laughed at me.

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              • just the facts
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                #47
                Originally posted by Haka
                Loma, getting robbed took the wind out of his sails. He is getting shutout and ignored since that robbery for good reason ...
                It doesn't help that he is relatively small for his weight and is an aging fighter relying on this athleticism.
                When was Loma robbed?

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                • just the facts
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey
                  Andrade - mid 30s, never unified, hasn't fought a world champ
                  Charla - over 30, hasn't unified, a thug and criminal that has more news making fights outside the ring
                  Stank Davis - protected. About to hit 30 and still no worthy fight. Ducked Lomachenko
                  Broner - no explanation needed
                  Wilder - KO'd cans until he got exposed by Fury.
                  Hmmmm, what do all of those fighters have in common?

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BangEM
                    I’ll say it’s AJ. The guy was on the cusp of being as Mayweather (if not bigger) but he’s not the brightest bulb out there. His propensity to follow Hearn around like a dog and inability to be strategic ruined his career.

                    The guy conquered Europe and the rest of the world. His buzz was growing in the US and with that right strategy - he would’ve conquered it. I remember telling a lad on Reddit the day AJ went on the US TV and claim he’s levels above other HWs and he’ll fight them even if they’re juiced up that this guy is a dummy who’s getting too big headed. And he’s better off playing it safe now that he’s taken successive tough fights until he gets the undisputed because styles make fights. No boxer can beat everyone and once you’re the top - playing it safe will keep you there.

                    Also, I will like to add that I no longer have any interest in being a supporter of the guy’s boxing career. Henceforth don’t attach me to him on here. I gave him a pass when he posted black supremacist stuffs. However, posting Joe Rogan who continuously used the most devilish racist term in history and called people planet of apes during the controversy following Rogan is the last straw. I don’t see race but when a guy keeps posting supremacists from all sides like a dummy - it shows he doesn’t read the room. Awareness is important and I don’t align myself with any form of hate.
                    - - U parents disinherited U igno yet?

                    AJ with 11 title fights as the other heavy to unify the titles in the past 20 years when combined with 4 WBC International titles = 13-2, 11 KO, approx 60% of his career.

                    Cleared near $300mil and now coming up on at least a $50 mil purse and only 32 years of age.

                    Why don't U use U nano IQ tweetie universe to find us a Olympic Gold medal heavywt who surpasses that record in history. I'll be waiting with baited breath

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                    • El_Maldito_Rey
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by just the facts

                      Hmmmm, what do all of those fighters have in common?
                      They're all disappointments.

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