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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by M312
    Very unlikely for Queensbury not to win the purse with 80% on their side. The only way Queensbury could've lost the purse is if Fury refused to agree a deal with them. Once he started posting online he wanted the Whyte fight, it was obvious a deal was met.
    They may have bid $41m, but they aren't actually paying that much. It's $8m + whatever Fury has agreed to.

    Matchroom on the other hand, would've had to actually pay $40m+ for the fight as they didn't have much room to negotiate with Dillian.
    Matchroom wouldn’t have had to agree anything with Whyte. He is simply entitled to 20% of the winning bid. It’s non-negotiable. Same with Fury who is entitled to 80%.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      They blew Eddie out the water. I was expecting it to be a lot closer. Once again, Hearn is more talk than action.
      Again, It took 2 promoters to put that amount up.

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        #13
        Originally posted by El_Mero

        Again, It took 2 promoters to put that amount up.
        Again, I said they, that’s they meaning two or more, blew Eddie out the water.

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          #14
          Not enough people know about the great boxing career of Eddie Hills (3-0 legendary amateur) now known as Eddie 'Earn. If you check Nash's signature, you can see Eddie Hills in his top 10 P4P list. Nash out.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Nash out
            Not enough people know about the great boxing career of Eddie Hills (3-0 legendary amateur) now known as Eddie 'Earn. If you check Nash's signature, you can see Eddie Hills in his top 10 P4P list. Nash out.
            The infamous Eddie “The Billericay Iceman” Hills.

            Despite there being no actual evidence, Eddie is a reliable and honest guy who would never make this sort of stuff up, I’m sure he’s telling the truth!

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            • M312
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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              Matchroom wouldn’t have had to agree anything with Whyte. He is simply entitled to 20% of the winning bid. It’s non-negotiable. Same with Fury who is entitled to 80%.
              If only it was that simple.

              Purse bids rarely have the winning promotor paying the full purse to their guy. They win the purse because their fighter took a deal, meaning they can offer more.

              They only pay the opponents purse.

              For example, if Fury agreed to take $20m (just a number), they could bid $100m for the purse and only end up paying the opponents part of it. Fury would take $20m regardless.

              In this case 20% of $41m is $8m. So they will pay that + whatever Fury agreed to.

              Incredibly likely that has happened here. It'll never actually cost $41m.

              That's how most purse bids end up, unless you're Teo and refuse to deal because you want the cash more than a 'home' promotion.

              The purse split made it almost impossible for Queensbury to lose the purse - unless Fury refused to budge from what he was 'entitled' to, but that's rare.

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                #17
                Let us not forget that 40% of that 41 million goes back to the promoter, then management, and so on and so forth. Eddie will get his 1.76 million and Arum/Warren get their 7 million back. So we shall see how this pans out. If Whyte walks away from this he is a smooth idiot.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  Matchroom wouldn’t have had to agree anything with Whyte. He is simply entitled to 20% of the winning bid. It’s non-negotiable. Same with Fury who is entitled to 80%.
                  There is nothing to stop a promoter cutting a deal with his own fighter before putting a bid in, especially if his fighter is a massive A side.

                  Eg, if Fury told Frank and Bobby Liar he would be ok with $25million, they add Whyte's $8million on to that and everything else comes straight back to them.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by M312

                    If only it was that simple.

                    Purse bids rarely have the winning promotor paying the full purse to their guy. They win the purse because their fighter took a deal, meaning they can offer more.

                    They only pay the opponents purse.

                    For example, if Fury agreed to take $20m (just a number), they could bid $100m for the purse and only end up paying the opponents part of it. Fury would take $20m regardless.

                    In this case 20% of $41m is $8m. So they will pay that + whatever Fury agreed to.

                    Incredibly likely that has happened here. It'll never actually cost $41m.

                    That's how most purse bids end up, unless you're Teo and refuse to deal because you want the cash more than a 'home' promotion.

                    The purse split made it almost impossible for Queensbury to lose the purse - unless Fury refused to budge from what he was 'entitled' to, but that's rare.
                    Exactly so.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      Lost money based on what? What figures corroborate that?

                      Surely acquiring the rights to such a big fight would be a profitable move for Hearn/DAZN.

                      Hearn bid 32m, way over the minimum, he clearly wanted this fight but failed to acquire it.
                      Clearly wanted it, yes. Why wouldn't he? 32M is a big bid.

                      Why would acquiring the rights necessarily be profitable? Would it be true at 50M? 60M? It's a statement that you can't make without some kind of formula. But it's 100% wrong to say that acquiring the rights would surely be profitable.

                      Presumably Hearn considered that number to be around the 32M mark. It's not like he would look to get it on the cheap when TR/Queensberry combined had the 80% fighter. They could always bid more.
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