Is 20% for Dillian Shyte fair given his market value?

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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #51
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    Wilder worked his way up to the mandatory position, and then dominated the WBC world heavyweight champion (who was rated #2 by Ring Magazine and ESPN at the time).

    If you become mandatory and then fight, and dominate, a highly rated champion, you weren't "gifted" a belt.

    You're an idiot.
    He was gifted a vacant belt in a mediocre division

    He fought stiverne if I remember correctly an obese guy with lung and fatigue problems

    He was gifted a belt against a bum

    The rankings can be easily manipulated with padded records

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      #52
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

      Whyte's position is that interim champions are entitled to 45%. His position is ridiculous because that's a WBA rule and he's a WBC champion. The arbiter is going to laugh at him.
      He may be asking for 45% but that makes sense when you're bartering up from 20%, which is less than the minimum and he's not just a mandatory, he's their interim champion.

      I don't think he'll be laughed at. I think arbitration should find a middle ground.

      It's clear he should be getting 30% at a minimum. Anything else is funny business on the behalf of Team Fury and the WBC. ie finding a way to give Whyte his shot but not actually have him fight.

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        #53
        Originally posted by PotentialToast

        Ignore WBC WBA IBF. He is a loser who talks rubbish. 45% is the starting point laid down in the WBC rules for Interik champions. Also, why would the WBC do Fury any favours? They have protected Wilder so having Fury fight Whyte helps Wilder dodge Whyte (and has admitted doing so).
        It is within the WBC's rules to allow for a change in the purse split for special circumstances.

        The vast disparity between what Fury has been getting paid and what Shyte has been getting paid would qualify, I suspect.


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          #54
          Originally posted by PotentialToast
          45% is the starting point laid down in the WBC rules for Interik champions.
          No, it's not. Check the rules yourself. Only the WBA has that rule and even the WBA rule only applies in situations involving a "champion in recess."

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            #55
            Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
            He was gifted a vacant belt in a mediocre division
            Wilder didn't win a vacant title. He wasn't gifted anything.


            He fought stiverne if I remember correctly an obese guy with lung and fatigue problems
            Stiverne was #2 in the world according to Ring Magazine and ESPN. Stiverne weighed in at 239, so no, you don't remember anything correctly. Every post from you is full of false information.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Toffee
              He may be asking for 45% but that makes sense when you're bartering up from 20%, which is less than the minimum and he's not just a mandatory, he's their interim champion.
              The WBC rules clearly state that the interim champion is to be given no special treatment in regards to purse split and is considered no different than any other mandatory when it comes to the purse split.


              It's clear he should be getting 30% at a minimum.
              No, that's not clear. That's your uneducated inexperienced amateur biased fanboy opinion. A normal no name champion is entitled to 70%. Fury makes $25 million a fight, Whyte makes less than $1 million a fight, and adjusting the split to 80/20 is absolutely appropriate.

              When Fury was the mandatory and fought Klitschko, the split was modified the same way. 80/20 in Klitschko's favor. This kind of stuff goes on all the time.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                The WBC rules clearly state that the interim champion is to be given no special treatment in regards to purse split and is considered no different than any other mandatory when it comes to the purse split.




                No, that's not clear. That's your uneducated inexperienced amateur biased fanboy opinion. A normal no name champion is entitled to 70%. Fury makes $25 million a fight, Whyte makes less than $1 million a fight, and adjusting the split to 80/20 is absolutely appropriate.

                When Fury was the mandatory and fought Klitschko, the split was modified the same way. 80/20 in Klitschko's favor. This kind of stuff goes on all the time.


                The WBC rules clearly say 45% for interim in a purse split, "no different than any other mandatory" though.

                http://www.wbcboxing.com/downloads/N...FINAL_2009.pdf

                You just make up **** and expect everyone to believe it.
                Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 12-24-2021, 03:00 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  The WBC rules clearly say 45% for interim in a purse split, "no different than any other mandatory" though.

                  http://www.wbcboxing.com/downloads/N...FINAL_2009.pdf

                  You just make up **** and expect everyone to believe it.
                  If you are wrong, will you apologize? That would be the honorable thing to do right?

                  So allow me to explain why you're wrong. You posted an old rules document from 2009 that is no longer listed in the rules section of the WBC website.

                  Go to the rules section of the WBC website: https://wbcboxing.com/wbc/documentos/ and then click on the CURRENT rules and regulations: https://wbcboxing.com/descarga/regla...2cea1640369425

                  They clearly state:

                  In its sole discretion, the WBC shall subsequently determine the timing and terms of any bout between a Champion and Interim Champion to determine a sole champion in the division, provided, however, that an Interim Champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger, without a specific prior written order to that effect from the WBC President or his designee.

                  Nowhere in the current rules listed is there any mention of 45% for an interim champion. The document you posted isn't listed in the rules section of the WBC website.

                  So here's the question, did you know you were posting old rules? Were you purposely trying to fool everyone? Or did you make an innocent mistake? Either way, you owe me an apology.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                    If you are wrong, will you apologize? That would be the honorable thing to do right?

                    So allow me to explain why you're wrong. You posted an old rules document from 2009 that is no longer listed in the rules section of the WBC website.

                    Go to the rules section of the WBC website: https://wbcboxing.com/wbc/documentos/ and then click on the CURRENT rules and regulations: https://wbcboxing.com/descarga/regla...2cea1640369425

                    They clearly state:

                    In its sole discretion, the WBC shall subsequently determine the timing and terms of any bout between a Champion and Interim Champion to determine a sole champion in the division, provided, however, that an Interim Champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger, without a specific prior written order to that effect from the WBC President or his designee.

                    Nowhere in the current rules listed is there any mention of 45% for an interim champion. The document you posted isn't listed in the rules section of the WBC website.

                    So here's the question, did you know you were posting old rules? Were you purposely trying to fool everyone? Or did you make an innocent mistake? Either way, you owe me an apology.
                    That doesn’t even make sense because Fury isn’t a challenger . Now you’re just copying and pasting things that don’t apply to this situation. That’s only if Whyte fights a challenger. It’s funny to because in that very statement it says an interim champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, now if this is new rules how is Whyte a mandatory challenger being the interim champion ?

                    Why are they in arbitration if it’s up to the WBC to determine the splits. ? You’re lying again .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-24-2021, 03:29 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll


                      “What the WBC have said is: let it go to arbitration, let the arbitrators decide on whether he’s got a case or not. If he has, they’ll abide by that. They said the split, which we can’t quite get at the moment, is either going to be 85/15 in Tyson’s favor or 80/20. And that’s because the purses that were submitted, in his last fight, Whyte said he got £300,000.”

                      https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fu...emands--162105
                      He said that? I do recall him saying his training camps were nearly that amount but whatever. Tyson destroys him anyway. WHYTE deserves 30% minimum regardless of how crap you believe he is. In any case Tyson does not fight for money he is only going to donate his huge purse to charity like he did last time. Tyson Fury the Mother Teresa of Gypsies

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