Is 20% for Dillian Shyte fair given his market value?

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #81
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    Klitschko got 80/20 when Fury was the mandatory.
    Do you have a source for that?

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      #82
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Do you have a source for that?
      The WBA on Friday ordered a purse bid July 6 in Panana City for the Wladimir Klitschko-Tyson Fury fight scheduled to take place this fall.


      "Klitschko, as the reigning champion, would be entitled to 80 percent of the winning purse offer, with Fury getting the remaining 20 percent."


      Klitschko was also successful in having the split modified to 80% for the Pulev fight as well.

      Bernd Boente, manager of WBO/IBF/WBA/IBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (62-3, 52KOs), has confirmed that the International Boxing Federation has approved the request by Team Klitschko to modify the purse bid split to 80-20, in favor of the champion, with respect to the mandatory obligation to undefeated challenger Kubrat Pulev (20-0, 11KOs). The usual split is 75-25 in favor of the champion.


      "the International Boxing Federation has approved the request by Team Klitschko to modify the purse bid split to 80-20"

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        #83
        Whyte is desperate, trying to milk this for all it's worth.

        A man who gets dropped by Oscar Rivas is not a threat to Tyson Fury.

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          #84
          Originally posted by SN!PER
          Whyte is desperate, trying to milk this for all it's worth.
          He doesn't want the fight. He wants to frustrate Fury into vacating so he can be elevated to world champion without ever having to fight anyone he was told to fight.

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            #85
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

            He doesn't want the fight. He wants to frustrate Fury into vacating so he can be elevated to world champion without ever having to fight anyone he was told to fight.
            Just wants it his way. I dont think fury will vacate. How do you see the fight playing out if it happens?

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              #86
              Originally posted by Watcherw1
              Just wants it his way. I dont think fury will vacate. How do you see the fight playing out if it happens?
              Whyte has no chance against a well prepared Fury. The only person on the planet that can defeat Fury is Fury and I'm not even sure an ill prepared Fury can be defeated right now. I bet a million dollars on Wilder because Fury was partying, ****ing **********s, drinking, etc the week before the fight and I was convinced he was distracted and setting himself up to be knocked out.

              He won anyway. The dude is just a freak.

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                #87
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                The WBA on Friday ordered a purse bid July 6 in Panana City for the Wladimir Klitschko-Tyson Fury fight scheduled to take place this fall.


                "Klitschko, as the reigning champion, would be entitled to 80 percent of the winning purse offer, with Fury getting the remaining 20 percent."


                Klitschko was also successful in having the split modified to 80% for the Pulev fight as well.

                Bernd Boente, manager of WBO/IBF/WBA/IBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (62-3, 52KOs), has confirmed that the International Boxing Federation has approved the request by Team Klitschko to modify the purse bid split to 80-20, in favor of the champion, with respect to the mandatory obligation to undefeated challenger Kubrat Pulev (20-0, 11KOs). The usual split is 75-25 in favor of the champion.


                "the International Boxing Federation has approved the request by Team Klitschko to modify the purse bid split to 80-20"
                Just making sure.

                So there is plenty of historical precedent for Fury's team to ask for 80-20.

                Shyte asking for 45%, on the other hand, is ridiculous and pricing himself out. He's at the level where he should be willing to take short money for a shot at greatness. Not trying to break the bank as the obvious B-side.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  So there is plenty of historical precedent for Fury's team to ask for 80-20.
                  Correct. There is decades and decades of precedence of the top stars successfully lobbying to have the standard split modified. Otherwise you could never have a big star as world champion as every mandatory would automatically force a purse bid and the champion would vacate. There must be some sort of mechanism in place for guys like Fury or Canelo who are making tens of millions of dollars per fight to be treated fairly in a purse bid.


                  Shyte asking for 45%, on the other hand, is ridiculous and pricing himself out.
                  Even worse, his promoter is lying to the public and saying interim champions are entitled to 45%, even though the current WBC rules clearly state interim champions have no special rights compared to a normal mandatory when it comes to the purse split. There is an old version of the WBC rules from 2009 that entitled an interim champion to 45%, but the current rules, which have been around for over a decade, very clearly state interim champions don't get a special split.

                  So what Hearn is hoping is that the average fan won't know he's lying about the rules and then he can claim that the WBC screwed Whyte. He's done this over and over with Whyte. Lying about him being mandatory. Lying about him fighting final eliminators. It's been going on for four years. Hearn wants Whyte to become world champion without ever having to fight someone mandated by the WBC.

                  Because what happens if he fights someone mandated by the WBC? It can go to purse bid and Hearn risks not having British judges and a British ref to protect Whyte.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                    The WBA on Friday ordered a purse bid July 6 in Panana City for the Wladimir Klitschko-Tyson Fury fight scheduled to take place this fall.


                    "Klitschko, as the reigning champion, would be entitled to 80 percent of the winning purse offer, with Fury getting the remaining 20 percent."


                    Klitschko was also successful in having the split modified to 80% for the Pulev fight as well.

                    Bernd Boente, manager of WBO/IBF/WBA/IBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (62-3, 52KOs), has confirmed that the International Boxing Federation has approved the request by Team Klitschko to modify the purse bid split to 80-20, in favor of the champion, with respect to the mandatory obligation to undefeated challenger Kubrat Pulev (20-0, 11KOs). The usual split is 75-25 in favor of the champion.


                    "the International Boxing Federation has approved the request by Team Klitschko to modify the purse bid split to 80-20"
                    So the WBA and IBF. What about the WBC? Given that's who we're talking about.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                      Because many people here, after being brainwashed by Eddie Hearn, were lying and saying WBC interim champions are entitled to 45%. That's not true. That's a lie. So I quoted the rule to show that WBC interim champions aren't entitled to any special treatment compared to a normal challenger.

                      So the question becomes, is Fury so much more valuable than Whyte that the WBC should invoke their ability to modify the split in Fury's favor? The answer is yes. Fury is one of the highest paid boxers on the planet and definitely deserving of more than the usual 70/30 split.
                      Let's be clear. 70/30 is both the usual and the minimum split in their rules. They can of course make an exceptional decision - but they'd need good reason to do that and I just don't see it. It's a highly regarded champion against a highly regarded challenger. It's not exceptional at all.

                      I couldn't care less whether you think Whyte is worth 45% or not. It's not a binary decision between 20% or 45%

                      But I can see that anything below 30% is a deliberate decision. And I question why. It looks to me like a collusive lowball to get rid of Whyte.

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