Is 20% for Dillian Shyte fair given his market value?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Smash

    fighting wilder in the states in a trilogy is totally different than in the uk, fury is as far as i can see not popular at all actually, i could even say shyte has more of a fanbase, crazy as it seems
    Fury is far more famous than Whyte in the UK, and Dillian has no fanbase, he didn't sell any tickets for the Wallin fight, its one of the reasons why he faked an injury to get out of it.

    Fury is a household name, only boxing fans know who Whyte is.

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      #22
      WOW, boxing fans concerned with how much a boxer makes. How astute

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        #23
        I think he is more than 20% but then again he is the one that claims he got just 300K for his last fight. 25% should be OK given he is interim and is, otherwise, entitled to a larger share. Fury is in command and he may agree with the WBC rules which is not very unusual.

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          #24
          Don't care for this what they draw bull****. Y'all have used it for **** all nothing but protection and Fury doesn't need it. He's being greedy and you're protecting his greedy ass when fact is being in a ****ing title fight ought to earn you a ****ing pay raise. Duh.

          Whyte only drew blah blah, shut the **** up, was he fighting for a world title? Was Fury? Why the **** are you comparing draw then?

          All this **** does is legitimize and farther push the pussification of boxing.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Marchegiano
            Don't care for this what they draw bull****. Y'all have used it for **** all nothing but protection and Fury doesn't need it. He's being greedy and you're protecting his greedy ass when fact is being in a ****ing title fight ought to earn you a ****ing pay raise. Duh.

            Whyte only drew blah blah, shut the **** up, was he fighting for a world title? Was Fury? Why the **** are you comparing draw then?

            All this **** does is legitimize and farther push the pussification of boxing.
            If people are going to start talking about ducking then the financial realities need to be brought up.

            Asking for a 45% purse split is pricing yourself out. And then it is YOU that is doing the ducking.

            In my honest opinion.

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              #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              If people are going to start talking about ducking then the financial realities need to be brought up.

              Asking for a 45% purse split is pricing yourself out. And then it is YOU that is doing the ducking.

              In my honest opinion.
              Actually, I may be misunderstanding some elements here so let's start with some basics. What is the purpose of a purse bid?

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                #27
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                If people are going to start talking about ducking then the financial realities need to be brought up.

                Asking for a 45% purse split is pricing yourself out. And then it is YOU that is doing the ducking.

                In my honest opinion.
                45% is actually a starting point under their own rules which the Interim champion is entitled to if he fights the regular WBC champion. It’s not on Whyte to accept 20% so you aren’t being honest at all but at least you baited a whole bunch of posters to keep this going .


                Hearn offered 25% guaranteed money in his first Wilder offer when he made peanuts about 1.5 million on average per fight in 2018 which was 12.5 million and you guys called it low ball offers now Whyte is asking to much and anything over 20% is out pricing himself ? Care to explain that one ?

                Whyte earned a million in just his 15th fight PPV against A.J in 2015 so talks about he’s not worth this or that against another top ranked guy in a real title fight isn’t even realistic particularly if the fight is in the U.K and Whyte is a Interim champion,he’s had very successful PPV events as well these things aren’t just going to get him 20% if you can do math and count all the other things he brings ,a Fury PPV in the U.K is weaker without Whyte we all know this thats called leverage. What do you think Wilder would actually get for his worth without AJ or Fury ? You can’t say someone is pricing themselves out when you were all for Wilder getting 50% against A.J using what fighters generate .
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-22-2021, 03:26 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano

                  Actually, I may be misunderstanding some elements here so let's start with some basics. What is the purpose of a purse bid?
                  When two fighters can't come to an agreement with each other on financials the alphabet groups will call for a purse bid.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    45% is actually a starting point under their own rules which the Interim champion is entitled to if he fights the regular WBC champion. It’s not on Whyte to accept 20% so you aren’t being honest at all but at least you baited a whole bunch of posters to keep this going .


                    Hearn offered 25% guaranteed money in his first Wilder offer when he made peanuts about 1.5 million on average per fight in 2018 which was 12.5 million and you guys called it low ball offers now Whyte is asking to much and anything over 20% is out pricing himself ? Care to explain that one ?

                    Whyte earned a million in just his 15th fight PPV against A.J in 2015 so talks about he’s not worth this or that against another top ranked guy in a real title fight isn’t even realistic particularly if the fight is in the U.K and Whyte is a Interim champion,he’s had very successful PPV events as well these things aren’t just going to get him 20% if you can do math and count all the other things he brings ,a Fury PPV in the U.K is weaker without Whyte we all know this thats called leverage. What do you think Wilder would actually get for his worth without AJ or Fury ? You can’t say someone is pricing themselves out when you were all for Wilder getting 50% against A.J using what fighters generate .
                    Difference is Wilder had a history of selling more tickets in the US and getting better TV ratings in the US than Joshua. There were actual numbers in his favor. He also held the WBC belt.

                    What numbers does Shyte have in his favor over Tyson Fury? What belt does he bring to the table?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      When two fighters can't come to an agreement with each other on financials the alphabet groups will call for a purse bid.
                      This might seem like patronization because it's so basic but I'm pretty certain I've never once looked up what a purse bid actually is because it's easy to assume and want to make sure I'm not being critical of Fury based on a false assumption about the situation. Not trying to patronize.

                      The purse bid is like X paid most so X gets to write the %'s or is there more negotiation to a purse bid than that?

                      What I am curious is does losing a purse bid mean that fighter's own backers don't support his stance with their money, or, can the fighter who lost the purse bid still make demands without going outside of the organization, ie, dropping the belt?

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