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  • saopaulo
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    #61
    if joshua steps aside then dump the belt to fight usyk. sick of these corrupt a-ss sanctioning bodies ruining boxing. fighters should have walked away from them decades ago and stop letting them dictate things. Whyte is nothing but a bloated milk dud bum, its a garbage fight.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #62
      Originally posted by saopaulo
      if joshua steps aside then dump the belt to fight usyk. sick of these corrupt a-ss sanctioning bodies ruining boxing. fighters should have walked away from them decades ago and stop letting them dictate things. Whyte is nothing but a bloated milk dud bum, its a garbage fight.
      - - Furry specializing in Garbage fights after he dumped his unified belts to duck the Wlad rematch.

      Then he turned down at least two offers to regain them vs AJ that Ruiz and Usyk took, and the rest history.

      What grade wuz U in then?

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      • ddeg10
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        #63
        Originally posted by SilverMiles

        Povetkin was known as a pretty good puncher in the division. I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
        Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

        25 KOs in 36 wins...Seems pretty fookin' powerful to me.
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.

        Lol Povetkin wasn't known for Heavyweight power? By all means hate on Whyte but that is one dumb as fkk statement.

        I stand corrected. I was going off of the top of my head and from what I remember of Povetkin's fights he ended up at the KO, not a one punch KO. That KO of Whyte was a brutal one punch shot, and Povetkin was 40 years old. Whyte has no chance against Fury nor Wilder. The result is just too obvious.
        Last edited by ddeg10; 12-23-2021, 01:16 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by REDEEMER
          The WBC recognizes the WBC interim title as a real belt outside the main WBC one . Wallin is not ranked and does nothing for Whyte ,the Interim and champion title holders are supposed to fight that’s how it works and nothing of any talks of 20% from our usual accountants on here is that being accountants but them ain’t the rules .
          The WBC determined the 80/20 split based on the outstanding marketing value of Fury. The WBC rules give the WBC the absolute authority to determine the split. I'm not sure why Whyte thinks he can get the arbitrator to give him 45%.

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          • DaNeutral.
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            #65
            Originally posted by ddeg10






            I stand corrected. I was going off of the top of my head and from what I remember of Povetkin's fights he ended up at the KO, not a one punch KO. That KO of Whyte was a brutal one punch shot, and Povetkin was 40 years old. Whyte has no chance against Fury nor Wilder. The result is just too obvious.
            It's all down to opinion on how Whyte would do against Fury or Wilder but I nearly fully agree with you, I give Whyte very little chance against either of them. But I wouldn't give him no chance, he hits hard enough to turn a fight right around.

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              #66
              Originally posted by ddeg10






              I stand corrected. I was going off of the top of my head and from what I remember of Povetkin's fights he ended up at the KO, not a one punch KO. That KO of Whyte was a brutal one punch shot, and Povetkin was 40 years old. Whyte has no chance against Fury nor Wilder. The result is just too obvious.
              Hold on there. Povetkin was a decorated amateur and an Olympic gold medalist. And Whyte was beating him in the fourth round, knocking him down twice. He may be old, but he's still dangerous. If anything, his defensive reflexes have faded. Even if what you say is true and Dillian has no chance against Fury nor Wilder, does that mean that the shot he has earned shouldn't happen? He's the mandatory challenger. Let the man fight.

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                #67
                Originally posted by saopaulo
                if joshua steps aside then dump the belt to fight usyk. sick of these corrupt a-ss sanctioning bodies ruining boxing. fighters should have walked away from them decades ago and stop letting them dictate things. Whyte is nothing but a bloated milk dud bum, its a garbage fight.
                Joshua won't step aside. If you have DAZN, check out the interview with Eddy Hearn on the subject, or find it on Youtube. He said that AJ was a bit angry when he asked him about stepping aside. Eddy said he thought Joshua was going to hurt him for bringing it up.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by andocom

                  Using the £300,000 from Warren (so $400,000 USD) isn't exactly telling the whole story either, it was a rematch, coming off a loss with no crowds and doesn't appear to include PPV as his guarantee was £4M

                  Prior to that his purses were routinely £1M, up to £1.5M for Wach, £4M for Povetkin 1 (so over $5M USD).

                  As far as mandatory challengers go, he is a pretty well paid one, and I doubt it will be a 55/45 split, probably somewhere between that and 80/20.

                  I actually doubt Fury v Ruiz would generate more if they can fill a UK stadium, but even if it could, that just means Fury should knock over Whyte then fight Ruiz and get paid twice. Thats what I liked so much about Canelo's run this year, instead of dodging his mando he just fought more often.
                  With Omicron around, do you think they would be allowed to fill a stadium even if they could? And is Fury even allowed to fight in the UK?

                  Fury can decide to fight twice but the question remains that will those two fights against Whyte and Ruiz make more money or against Ruiz and Joshua/Usyk? It is usually not a simple A fights B or A fights C but there are many other things involved and the money generated from the fight is only 1 of several aspects to be considered. A Ruiz fight will be huge, will be in the US or Mexico, and Fury can negotiate on his terms.

                  For me as a fan, either of those two fights is OK. I think that if Fury-Whyte does not work out, WBC may offer Fury to become a franchise champion instead of leaving their organization altogether.

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                  • ddeg10
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                    Hold on there. Povetkin was a decorated amateur and an Olympic gold medalist. And Whyte was beating him in the fourth round, knocking him down twice. He may be old, but he's still dangerous. If anything, his defensive reflexes have faded. Even if what you say is true and Dillian has no chance against Fury nor Wilder, does that mean that the shot he has earned shouldn't happen? He's the mandatory challenger. Let the man fight.
                    Yes, Povetkin was no joke, and I agree Whyte deserves his shot at the title. However, if I were Fury I'd move on and drop the belt. The fight isn't big enough at this stage in his career and frankly he doesn't have time to waste on it given that he has talked about retiring in the near future.
                    Last edited by ddeg10; 12-24-2021, 02:07 PM.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                      The WBC determined the 80/20 split based on the outstanding marketing value of Fury. The WBC rules give the WBC the absolute authority to determine the split. I'm not sure why Whyte thinks he can get the arbitrator to give him 45%.
                      Maybe because it’s in their rules and will use it to get an actual real split or at least try ,but that’s just a guess ?

                      WBC RULES on SPLITS

                      2.12 Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of the WBC certification fees) shall be divided as follows:
                      a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger.
                      b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts.
                      c) 55% to the champion and 45% to the interim champion

                      Im not sure you can actually read but you really need to look art letter C because you’ve been going on about how 45% only applies to the WBA like anyone actually believes you on here .

                      So where exactly did the WBC themselves make a statement on this so called 20% ,if they didn’t say it it doesn’t count right ? And this guy continues to pretend to be a WBC representative but doesn’t know his own splits ?
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-24-2021, 03:16 PM.

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